On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:03:02 -0500,
  "Clyde E. Kunkel" <clydekunkel7...@cox.net> wrote:
> Should they be visible?

I am not sure, but on a possibly related note, neither metacity nor
gnome-panel end up running and I have to manually start them to get
a usable desktop. I am not sure if they don't get started or crash.
I filed bugs for both of these.
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