As an experiment, I run the training on a small sample produced with 
text2image. Then I converted the .box files so that each character is 
assigned common bounding rectangle from all the characters and run the 
training again. The outputs were identical in both cases. Then I removed 
the box file and let the training script autogenerate them. In that case 
the reported error rates were crazy, like 99% instead of 0.5%.
This suggests that conclusion 3 is correct.

środa, 10 lipca 2024 o 15:17:07 UTC+2 Mateusz Matela napisał(a):

> Hi all,
>
> Sorry if double posting, my previous message didn't appear and I don't see 
> any info about waiting for acceptance or something.
> I was searching for this topic in this forum and it was mentioned a few 
> times, but I couldn't find a clear and definitive explanation.
>
> How does the information put in the .box files affect the training 
> process? The file contains coordinates for each character in the txt file, 
> but the documentation says that since Tesseract 4.0 the model operates on 
> the level of whole lines. Some tools like text2image generate the .box 
> files with accurate coordinates for each character. When the .box files are 
> missing the tesstrain Makefile generates them using generate_line_box.py, 
> which assigns the same full image area to each character.
>
> I see 3 possible conclusions, which one is closest to the truth?
>
> 1. The .box files do not affect the LSTM training at all and are just a 
> leftover from the times of Tesseract 3. In that case, ideally in the future 
> they could be completely dropped or only required/generated when 
> specifically working with the legacy engine.
>
> 2. There is still a chance that training will work better with exact 
> coordinates and the generate_line_box.py is just a cheap workaround that 
> could be improved on in the future.
>
> 3. The .box file is still important in case you prefer to define the 
> coordinates for the text in the image instead of cropping the image. The 
> granularity of the coordinates is not imporant as Tesseract will just work 
> on a box that encapsulates all of the character boxes. Even if confusing, 
> this approach is still better than having a different .box file formats for 
> LSTM and the legacy engine.
>
> I'll be grateful for any wisdom on this.
>
> Thanks
> Mateusz
>

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