Hey John,

Are you able to share which parameters you tweaked to get better
performance?

Thank you

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, 08:13 John Alway <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Zdenko,
>
> Thank you for the advice.   I ended up being able to tweak the tesseract
> parameters and was able to improve performance so that it was good enough
> without having to train.
>
> And I do appreciate the hard work and cleverness that has gone into
> creating and improving tesseract.  It's a beautiful piece of work.
>
> Regards,
> ...John
>
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> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 10:04 AM Zdenko Podobny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Trained data from tesseract 5 are compatible with 4, so definitely I
>> would suggest using the latest tesseract version for training - there was a
>> lot of bug fixing and speed improvements.
>>
>> IMO tesseract training has never been easy. I always suggest focusing on
>> image preprocessing rather than training.
>> Following an easy looking training tutorial could also mean you are on
>> the wrong path (=> you waste your time and it increases your frustration).
>> For example:Tesseract 4 has 2 engines LSTM and legacy engine. In this
>> particular video, for which engine is that training? For hints see[1]. Did
>> you plan to train that engine or other one?
>>
>> [1]
>> https://tesseract-ocr.github.io/tessdoc/tess5/TrainingTesseract-5.html#overview-of-training-process
>>
>> Zdenko
>>
>>
>> st 31. 8. 2022 o 15:40 John Alway <[email protected]> napísal(a):
>>
>>> "First of all: if you follow any tutorial on internet - report the
>>> problem to the author of the tutorial."
>>> Next: use official documentation for training. I see there are a bunch
>>> of folks just "generating content" - to gain an audience. Without insight
>>> and therefore also without support, using old/outdated information..."
>>>
>>>   People are trying to find a nice, easy tutorial to help them get
>>> through the forest.   I think that's the bottom line.   Thanks for the link.
>>>
>>> 'Tesseract 4 was released 29 Oct 2018. Almost 4 year ago! The recent
>>> tesseract version is 5.2 and training process was also improved:
>>> https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesstrain";
>>>
>>>   I understand this, but I'm using C# .Net, and I don't think version 5
>>> is available in C#.  Unless I'm mistaken?  There are costly packages, such
>>> as IronOcr which uses tesseract 5, but there is no way I can take that
>>> route.
>>>
>>>   Regards,
>>>  ...John
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 3:27 AM Zdenko Podobny <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> First of all: if you follow any tutorial on internet - report the
>>>> problem to the author of the tutorial.
>>>> Next: use official documentation for training. I see there are a bunch
>>>> of folks just "generating content" - to gain an audience. Without insight
>>>> and therefore also without support, using old/outdated information...
>>>> Tesseract 4 was released 29 Oct 2018. Almost 4 year ago! The recent
>>>> tesseract version is 5.2 and training process was also improved:
>>>> https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesstrain
>>>>
>>>> Zdenko
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> st 31. 8. 2022 o 0:18 John Alway <[email protected]> napísal(a):
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been following a tutorial on youtube titled "Tesseract OCR -
>>>>> Lesson 2: Training Tesseract for new font" here:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v8BPw0Dn0I&ab_channel=TheCode
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using tesseract 4.0 on Window 10.
>>>>>
>>>>> I went through the steps he used, and everything seems to go smoothly
>>>>> until I get to the actual training.    When I run "mftraining" the program
>>>>> hangs. It seems to get stuck and doesn't indicate why are what it's doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using a set of fonts in an image. I have the full alphabet upper
>>>>> and lower case and the numbers 0 to 9 on the png image.   I've attached 
>>>>> the
>>>>> image.  Unlike him, I'm using the English.  I don't know the font, so I'm
>>>>> just calling it tiktok to give it a name.    My training file is called 
>>>>> *eng.tiktok.exp0.tr
>>>>> <http://eng.tiktok.exp0.tr>  *
>>>>>
>>>>> I used* jTessBoxEditor* to correct mistakes and set the box sizes and
>>>>> positions precisely.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I run this command:
>>>>>  *mftraining -F font_properties -U unicharset -O eng.unicharset
>>>>> eng.tiktok.exp0.tr <http://eng.tiktok.exp0.tr>*
>>>>>
>>>>> The program just hangs. I've waited over twenty minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I wait longer?   What could cause it to hang?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> ...John
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