I'm running Mandrake 7.1 - I wanted to upgrade my KDE from KDE 2.0 to 2.1 so... I first just did a rpm -F on kdelibs, kdebase and kdesupport. I got some conflicts, so I went back and also upgraded my QT libs (libqt2 and qt2-static) Then went to freshen the kde packages, and it worked fine. I then restarted KDE, and it crashed, and won't start. So I decided to start from scratch. I removed all of the KDE packages I had (not the apps, but the base, utils, libs, etc.) and re-installed. It looked fine, but won't start. I get the following message when I try to start x: kdeinit:error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3: undefined symbol: focusNextPrevChild_14QMultiLineEditb kedinit:error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: undefined symbol: qt_set_loacal_codec_FP10QTextCodec ksmserver:error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3:undefined symbol (same as above) So what does this mean? It can obviously find these libraries. Is it that the version of the libraries aren't new enough? I'm about to go look at rpmfind, and see what packages these libraries come from. Any ideas on how to find out what version is installed, and if that is the problem? I came across another undefined symbol problem in trying to install wine. TIA, Michelle PS - I upgraded my KDE to 2.1 in debian with incredible ease. I'll be happy when by some magic an easy install is matched with the ease of upgrade of debian. But I just haven't gotten debian to run on my laptop, after hours of work, whereas Mandrake installed really easily. Sigh. -- ----- MIchelle Murrain, President Norwottuck Technology Resources www.norwottuck.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk