The mystery explained. Thanks to all that lent a helping hand! Barbara -----Original Message----- 'talk' is running now! Had a few people at the kernel-panic.org LUG installfest working on my machine, most coming to the same frustrating conclusion that I did: it doesn't work and it should. However, a guy named Jim said to try commenting out the entry in /etc/hosts.deny and it worked! From there, I back traced the problem to .... me! In /etc/hosts, I had an entry: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost And in /etc/hosts.allow: all : localhost Which does a translation from localhost to a number back to a unique name ... and gets localhost.localdomain, so it fails the allow test. To get it working, I changed the hosts entry to: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain Now why do I have localhost.localdomain you may wonder... Well, at some point, one of the almost-open-source projects I'm working on made reference to it in a regression test. Thanks for the responses and the assistance. Case closed. -- Rick _______________________________________________ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk