Hi, everyone, I did a rebuild of my main system, got it all cleaned up and configured the way I wanted, and then installed Kooldown, a/k/a KDE 1.93, a/k/a KDE 2.0 Beta 4. I've only been using it for a few days, but it's sure come a long way since Kleopatra (KDE 1.91). It really loooks to be ready for release. All the apps work, none have crashed on me yet, and all have a much nice look and feel. A lot have had features added/finished, and all the bugs from Kleopatra seem to be gone. I'm impressed! Oh, one note: this time the install did hose a few things in KDE 1.1.2. Nothing that can't be fixed, and the two can be run side-by-side, but there's some reconfig work if you need to do that. The thing is, there is no reason not to work in KDE 2 any more :) Best, Caity _______________________________________________ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk