Hi, Carol, This thread is probably best moved to the techtalk list to get you the maximum number of responses. I've taken the liberty of crossposting it to both lists in case you aren't subscribed to techtalk yet. (If you're not, I highly recommend it. Nothing but lots of friendly help.) > > I read on the list that someone installed the Beta KDE2 and has the option > of running both KDE1 or KDE2. I went to one of the mirror sites and > d/loaded the .rpms of KDE2, but I don't know how to install it. I looked > on the KDE site, bbut the install instructions were for the 1.1.1 version > and the HOWTO for running both 1 and 2 assume you've already installed 2. If you downloaded RPMs there are two ways to install them. The command line way is to type in: rpm -ivh <package name> to install them. SInce you aren't using the -U option, but rather -1, you won't overwrite or remove previous versions. If you have KDE1 in place, you can open the super-user mode file manager and just click on the downloaded RPMs. This will open a kpackage window (you'll need to enter the root password to get in) and allow you to just click on "install". Once a kpackage window is open for the first RPM, you can drag and drop the rest into that window. That way you don't have to reauthenticate each time or end up with many kpackage windows open. > I'm also not wanting it to screw up my KDE1 and would please like to know > how you did it. I cannot speak for SuSe, as I did it on a system running Caldera 2.4. All I did was install the KDE2 RPMs. The packagers set things up so that KDE2 goes to /opt/kde2 rather than opt/kde. I then chose to adjust my path statement in my .profile to list /opt/kde2 first and opt/kde second. This allowed me to run apps from KDE2 in KDE 1.1.2, but then I had to hard-code my menu entries to the /opt/kde/<programname> to run KDE1 apps that were broken in KDE2 or else weren't happy about running in a KDE1 environment. KSpread, for example, does nothing but crash run from KDE1, but is usable from KDE2. The effect of all of this is that this message is being typed in the new KMail, which has some minor bugs, but really is very, very nice, despite the fact that I am still mostly living in KDE 1.1.2. Oh, and going back to the install process: the order which you install the RPMs in does make a difference if you don't want to get a gazillion dependency failures. Install qt2-2.1.1 first, then all the other qt RPMs, then the kdeqtaddon, kdesuppport, kdelibs, kdebase, and all the rest after that. > > I also d/loaded the newest StarOffice and will install that next. It's Not > as easy as windows, but I'm determined. I've had the linux machine up and > running almost of the day. It *is* as easy as Windows, maybe easier. It is not as easy for *you* because you are coming from a Windows environment which you are used to. If you were learning in Linux first and then had to switch to Windows, you might be making the opposite complaint. IBM commissioned a study at one point when Microsoft was spreading FUD about how difficult OS/2 was. They gave people who had no previous computer experience one OS or the other, and guaged how long it took them to become proficient in specific tasks, and how easy it was to find help within the OS or the provided docs. Guess what? OS/2 was far easier to learn. However, Microsoft could still spread their FUD because most people weren't starting from zero. > > I would greatly appreciate any and all help in this. That's what we're here for :) Take care, Caity -- Caitlyn Máire Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.caitys-world.com This message was written on and sent from a Microsoft-free computer system. _______________________________________________ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk