"Jenn V." wrote: > Clair Mooza wrote: > > > > I tried to enter in my mail/news server name and user name, etc. I am > > not sure what I'm missing. It's still not working. Is there something > > similar to eh-em...dial-up networking that I need to get going also? > > I'm stumped. Oh yeah, I'm running Mandrake 6.0 if that makes a > > difference. Finally got that working correctly. I ditched the Red Hat > > 5.2. We weren't seeing eye to eye. > > > > Also I should probably mention that I haven't set up my modem either...damn > > I'm schmoove! How do you do that? > > This is probably going to sound patronising - I don't intend it, but I > don't really know a good way of providing this theory without risking > sounding patronising. > If I do, please forgive me, and bear with me. > Your second mail told me why you aren't getting mail and news. > > The theory: > > The internet runs on layers. > * The top layer - the one visible to most end-users - is the actual 'good > bits'. Mail, news, IRC, web.. all that neat stuff. > * Under that is the stuff that does the connecting work - TCP/IP, domain > name servers, gateway addresses, IP addresses. Most end users have a vague > idea it's there, because they 'have to put all those numbers in' and 'have > to pay some silly ISP just so I can get my mail'. > * Under /that/ is the physical connection: the modem, ISDN line, microwave > link, satellite link.. whatever. > > It's kind of like a postal network, if you want to think of it that way. > * The inside of the parcel is the stuff you want - your books from > Amazon.com, or your present from your great-aunt who knits you tea cosies > every christmas. > * Around that is the wrapping, with your address on it so they know which > doorstep to put the parcel on. > * But the wrapping won't get it to you without the actual deliverymen in > their vans, and the road network, and so on. > > So what you have is the top layer - Netscape - configured. But you haven't > run the TCP/IP program, or connected the modem. Most 'modem setup' or > 'dial-up' or 'networking' software takes care of both the bottom two layers > for end-users, which makes life considerably simpler (but means people > don't get the theory!). > > So now the practical: > > I'm just going to do a web-search for a Mandrake 6.0 HowTo for modems. I > don't know Mandrake at all, but I'm told it's an easy one to use. > (and just as I'm about to do this, my link gives trouble. Wheee. Life is > giving me a demonstration of your frustration!) > I suspect that 'kppp' or 'pppd' will solve your problems. And given the > difficulty I'm having websearching right now, I think I'll just send this > with a request to someone who's actually got a /link/ at the moment to > locate an appropriate HowTo, > > Jenn V. > -- Jenn- Yeah, hence the "damn I'm schmoove" statement. Just poking a little fun at myself. Would probably help to have a protocol running and the modem too, and when I figured out that I hadn't even set up my modem and was trying to set up Netscape...well let's just say that I wasn't feelin too cool. This is my first successful install (third attempt) of Linux. It's like I have lost all brain cells. I appreciate you trying to help me get going! In the mean time, I think I will do a little scratching around on the web too to see if I can't find anything useful. Thought I would check in here first. Thanks and let me know if you find any references worth taking a peek at. -Clair _______________________________________________ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
