Thanx to all who posted suggestions regarding a linux html editor .......... tho starting out as a simple request it became much more. It seemed to become a forum for "by hand versus an editor" >From the posts there is the general conception that if you use an editor you are not "coding by hand" Tho some wsyiwyg editors do everything for you they are not for the serious or proffessional some --like hotdog( professional) -- offer you a notepad to do your code The wonderful list of different tags for different types of html should you need a reference point -the ability to view it as it would appear on the web on demand--. -the ability to edit images-- -- write, insert and run various scripts,-- -- link checker , - -upload and publish,( should you wish to do it this way )- -create image maps --, create applets and heaps more to mention here-- and all in one window...( and its a good ol' homegrown -oz- product*grin*) I have been coding HTML since 1994 and in those days I just did it live via Telnet.. however a lot has changed since then..there is no longer one standard and one evolving language........... when writing commercial websites I find these things invaluable both to my time and my stress levels. 'cheerz to all and thanx ive downloaded bluefish and in the process of getting coffecup ..i shall let you know my 2cents worth............. regardz dez _______________________________________________ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk