On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 7:56 AM Dimitri John Ledkov <dimitri.led...@canonical.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Are expiry dates listed on > https://launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+members correct? > And does it mean that even without expiry of any current members > through inactivity, we will be having a full election of all DMB > members in May? > If that is the case, is there any need to run an election for a couple > of places, given that all seats are up for reelection relatively soon > anyway?
Personally, I think this issue isn't really about when or if we hold an election for empty seats - I think this issue is about if a single DMB member can prevent the board from following its written policies due to disagreement with the written policies. > > Then all elected board members can be enforced with the expiry rules > as written and previously agreed. > > -- > Regards, > > Dimitri. > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 5:34 PM Thomas Ward <tew...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > > > Technical Board: > > > > During the Developer Membership Board meeting today[1], there was an action > > item / discussion item regarding the removal of two DMB members who have > > been inactive for an extended period of time. Unfortunately, there was an > > increased amount of argument and disagreement by members in attendance over > > how to execute this policy. > > > > In August of 2021, the DMB proposed [2] and then in November approved [3] a > > requirement for DMB members as follows: > > > > > Any DMB member who fails to attend 6 consecutive scheduled DMB meetings > > > (during a period no shorter than 12 weeks) shall be considered inactive > > > and removed from membership in the DMB. Since the number of members > > > required for quorum is 1/2 the number of active DMB members, rounded up, > > > the change in the number of active members will affect quorum. At such > > > time as any DMB member is found to be inactive due to this rule, the > > > current DMB chair will add an action item to schedule a public vote for a > > > new DMB member. Previous DMB members, including those changed to inactive > > > due to this rule, are eligible to run in the new election and any later > > > elections. This proposal is not retroactive, and the attendance > > > requirement shall start the first meeting after this proposal is adopted. > > > > (see > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/KnowledgeBase#Rules_and_Regulations) > > > > There are currently two individuals on the DMB who are in violation of this > > policy decided upon over 3 months ago; the specific names can be provided > > upon request privately for the TB's knowledge if the information is > > required or pertinent. > > > > Both of these members have not been present for at least 6 consecutive > > meetings and as such are in violation of the agreed upon policy that was > > passed in November. > > > > During the DMB meeting today (Feb. 7, 2022), a major disagreement came up > > between Dan Streetman and Robie Basak, over the fact that, "While we have > > decided upon this policy, we never discussed *how* we would do this." As > > such, a massive point of contention rose today in the meeting. > > > > Dan Streetman has proposed removing the members who meet this criterion > > immediately and begin the process of drafting elections for two new members > > to replace the individuals who are now in violation of this policy. > > > > Robie Basak is against any action until both aforementioned individuals > > have had a chance to respond before we remove them. He is also of the > > position that any response from the absent members would not necessarily > > affect any decision on their removal, however Robie is of the opinion that > > all individuals must be contacted first and must have a chance to respond > > before we simply remove any absent members. > > > > Unfortunately, the DMB could not come to agreement on this, and have > > requested to escalate this to the Technical Board for determination of how > > we should address this, and help to determine the proper procedure in this > > case. > > > > I would request that the TB make a decision as to how the DMB should > > proceed, or if the TB chooses to not handle this, escalate to the proper > > group to handle this decision. > > > > > > > > Thomas Ward > > > > https://launchpad.net/~teward > > > > Developer Membership Board Member > > > > [1]: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2022/02/07/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t16:13 > > > > [2]: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2021-August/001726.html > > > > [3]: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2021-November/001780.html > > > > -- > > technical-board mailing list > > technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board > > -- > technical-board mailing list > technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
