Then one may ask the question: how does it come that major features in Ubuntu rely on closed source software that is developed and run behind closed doors in the first place?!

I'm absolutely not satisfied with this answer and represent the opinion that there shouldn't be any need for closed source software to make Ubuntu function as intended! If the smart scopes rely on closed software it would only be consequent to open up that software as well.

What's Canonicals plan for this mess? You have just gone silent about this flaw. There are many things a community can obviously tolerate (Ubuntu One is closed source, despite the wish to open it up, Amazon Shopping lens is opt-out instead of opt-in, the list goes on...), but I think with closed source software at the heart of Ubuntu Canonical has gone too far! Wasn't Ubuntu a project for collaborating for the benefit of all? May I quote Jono Bacon: "/...but our greatest strength in Ubuntu is our community and together we can do this.../" What happened to that? We don't even have access to the source code anymore, not quite what I would call collaboration!

And to make one, maybe obvious thing clear: I do want just the best for Ubuntu! That said I hope to hear back from you or someone else who might be able to explain this and maybe, if Ubuntu is still Ubuntu and still about collaborating and being a real alternative to the rest out there, find a solution.

Thank You!

Paul


On 2013-11-06 19:04, Lucio Torre wrote:
The most important technical reason we have right now to keep it closed source is that most of this code will not work without other parts of our server code base, which is also closed source. So making it free of those parts is a substantial effort.

I consider that reason enough for the decision, but there might also be other reasons i am not aware of.

Lucio.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Martin Pitt <martin.p...@ubuntu.com <mailto:martin.p...@ubuntu.com>> wrote:

    Lucio Torre [2013-10-30 12:34 -0700]:
    > The server code that handles all requests from users is not open
    source. We
    > try to do many things with the data we collect to improve the
    service, and
    > that changes every day.

    The question surely isn't about opening the collected data to the
    public, just the server code itself.

    > Everything we do is within the terms of service and privacy policy
    > of the project.

    This would be easier to verify if one could see the server-side code.
    Is there a specific reason why it's closed?

    Thanks,

    Martin

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