> On Jul 16, 2020, at 19:36, Theo de Raadt <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Note the third sentence.
>> 
>> Given that, I reason that a serializing instruction before *and* after
>> the RDTSC should freeze it in place.
> 
> I haven't seen anyone read it that way.

They say that instructions after RDTSC can run before it because
it isn't a serializing instruction.

Do we want that?

And then, consider this bit of programming advice.  Also from the
ISA reference (Vol. 2B 4-547):

> If software requires RDTSC to be executed prior to execution of any
> subsequent instruction (including any memory accesses), it can
> execute the sequence LFENCE immediately after RDTSC.

What other reading is possible given this documentation?

What is your interpretation?  Am I missing something?

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