I think I had a script on my previous laptop to see if "ifconfig egress"
would result in something, and only wait for ntp to sync time in those
cases.
The existance of a default route may not be 100% fool-proof, but on
dhcp-boxes it was good-enough for me.



2013/9/6 Stuart Henderson <st...@openbsd.org>

> On 2013/09/06 07:42, Nick Holland wrote:
> > On 09/06/13 04:50, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > > On 2013/09/05 20:03, Barry Grumbine wrote:
> > >> Non-VM use case: The BeagleBone Black has no RTC, so -j could be
> > >> useful for cheap little ARM development boards.
> > >
> > > -s is fine for that (and the same for those of the alix boards with
> > > no rtc battery, etc).
> > >
> >
> > ...unless the machine isn't attached to the network when initially
> > powered up.
> >
> > Same goes for any machine with a dead RTC battery that may not have a
> > good network connection at boot, and/or you don't want to slow the boot
> > down by 15 seconds if there is no network connection.
>
> Another similar case, also not handled particularly well at present, is
> where you pick up your default route from a dynamic routing protocol so
> there's no default route when ntpd starts.  It seems to me that
> improving -s to cope better in this situation would be useful, and
> safer than -j in the event of an upstream NTP server going bad.
>
> > This shocks people, but I often use a computer where there is no
> > network connection. Waiting for that 15 second boot delay is annoying.
>
> Me too, I usually ^C there if I'm offline.
>
>


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