> and if you come with proper arguments (and code) they will be more than > happy to include it or change the way they do things to accomodate to > standards. Lennart is a different matter, he made it clear he doesn't > care about the rest of the ecosystem. But he is just one guy and his > lobbying works also because no one else is here to challenge him. It's > one thing to rant on mailing list and blobs...
I know Lennart comes out with some right rubbish and utterly pointless and misleading hype from this link but whether he is pulling strings I do not know and in any case does not change the facts. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/security.html It's stated time and again that if you are a Linux distro you will have to switch to systemd sooner or later. It was even said on this list debian will switch without giving evidence, was it the hype?. I welcome any recent links to contradict me? You get a similar thing in football, if some say someones the best defender enough times, even if they are judging him on his shooting ability then many believe it. Something that's cost England dearly. The limited decision process I saw from the debian leader said let's wait ten years and consider openrc in the meantime and it wasn't just because debian has BSD interests. http://lwn.net/Articles/512719/ Aside from systemd being slated technically on the Gentoo and also the Sabayon lists (http://lists.sabayon.org/pipermail/devel/2012-August/008278.html) Gentoo have said something like, we are about freedom and as systemd is curtailing that we are more likely to drop Gnome than support a default of systemd. Of course as choice is our main goal we hope systemd will run too, it will just be unsupported. As I have said I don't think anyone knows the figure but if Gnome becomes dependent on systemd, they are isolating most of their potential user base provided by Debian, Ubuntu and Gentoo and it's livecd derivitives and sending half their users over to the likes of KDE/XFCE that have already gnudged ahead. The only distros with a fair few users who have switched and still have far less users are Fedora, Mageia and OpenSUSE. So there are many many annoyed by this and it should hit true, especially as KDE has apparently already overtaken Gnome as the most used desktop. I just hope you get your answer sooner but from Gnomes recent record, I'd be worried too, so Good luck and keep us informed please. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________
