Yves> For people spending a lot of time in a terminal/shell (bash, csh etc...) do Yves> you work from the shell or from an editor?
I live inside emacs for editing and reading mail (at home still, moved to Exchange over Web at work, boo his!) but generally use xterms with tcsh for day to day living. But they're both setup side by side with 100 columns and 48 rows each. Yves> The joke goes that people using emacs live inside emacs, and I Yves> have indeed seen developers working from a simple window and Yves> sending chunk of code to a compiler/repl right from emacs, now Yves> what about the shell? I had a boss who lived inside emails, ran shell mode all the time. I've tried, but can't stand it. Cut'n'paste from an xterm has been all I've needed if I wanted to grab some screen output and then edit it. I also use 'screen' ALOT as well. tmux has been tried, but kicked to the curb for not being like screen keybinding wise. :-) Yves> I'm a vi/vim person, and when working from the shell I tend to Yves> use one of these two patterns: I do use vi/vim for small, quick edits. But once I get into major work, I shift back into emacs. Esp if it's plain ol' vi and not vim. But even then, I still work best in emacs for text editing. I wrote this reply inside emacs using VM. Yves> - run a command with no output redirection, then use "Shift-PgUP" and Yves> "Shift-PgDn" to examine the output Yup, do this all the time! Yves> - run a command with a redirection to a file in /tmp, then Yves> "view" that file to be able to do searches etc on the output I just pipe into less generally. Yves> This morning it occurred to me (after 25 years of using UNIXes, Yves> I'm not really fast I guess) that if I know that the output is Yves> going to be very long and it is likely that I will want to do Yves> searches on the output, I can open a blank file, then do Yves> something like (in vi/vim): Yves> esc-: r ! whois google.com Yves> Bingo! Then really, I can continue my day by doing "Shift-g" and Yves> re-using the above trick. It has the huge advantage to log Yves> everything I do, I guess I could clean up anything I don't Yves> really care for (or not and assume that anything could be Yves> important, I just don't know yet), and save the file after the Yves> date and have a log of my work for the rest of my life. Now, I Yves> could see the added gymnastic of "esc-: r !" becoming a pain Yves> very quickly. Yves> Hence my question, anybody already doing something similar (Even Yves> with emacs, I guess that'd be the straw to get me to start using Yves> evil mode!)? Can you describe? Learn something new all the time, I'll have to remember this. _______________________________________________ Tech mailing list Tech@lists.lopsa.org https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
