It's cheap and easy to make a jerry-rigged butt set as well.  I've been
using a two line analog phone and two terminators I made for a while now
for testing fax lines.  Just make a keystone jack with alligator clips on
the tip and ring pairs for testing at the block, and a connected pair of
keystones for testing terminated cables.  This rig has allowed me to test
all the way through the line on-prem from the block to the device and
everything in between. All bought and done with about $20 and 10 minutes of
research.

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> From: Chuong Dao <c...@sentrilock.com>
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> I am happy with Munin. It's simple and gives me what I need on Linux and
> Windows. Sounds like it will do what you're asking too. Munin doesn't have
> a nice dashboard so keeping 100+ servers on one screen might not fit on
> your screen. I haven't try their latest version but heard that they have a
> better "dashboard" design.
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> Subject: [lopsa-tech] nagios / cacti / spiceworks / zabbix / munin / zenoss
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> I've used zenoss before.  Didn't like it.  We had problems with the
> accuracy of metrics (I think it buffer overflowed or something, getting
> disk usage on a several TB volume, reported things like -50% full) ... even
> though "technically" it could allow you to create custom metrics via ssh
> and so forth, it was confusing, never got that working, etc.
>
> I haven't used any of these others.
>
> Looking at the nagios site, it looks like, you're supposed to install it
> on the server you monitor.  Installing httpd, mysql, configuring selinux,
> etc.  Which is not what I want.
>
> I want to install a centralized monitoring / alerting system, and deploy a
> tiny little plugin (or something) to each of the systems to be monitored.
>  The production systems already run apache, mysql, etc, and I don't want
> any dependencies on any installation packages to conflict or cause any
> disruption to existing production services.  If I need to configure httpd
> on the system to be monitored, it's a nonstarter.
>
> I primarily care about linux systems (but other OSes are nice to support
> too).  Want alerts, both predictive and reactionary (notify me if a system
> is down, but also notify me when disk usage is over 90% or the CPU stays
> over 95% for 10 minutes, or the system begins thrashing swap, etc, so I can
> hopefully avoid system down.)  etc.
>
> Thanks for suggestions.
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> From: Roy McMorran <mcmor...@low-tide.com>
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> Subject: [lopsa-tech] Somewhat OT? - Tools for Telecom work
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> Hi all,
>
> So, the person who up to now has been managing our phone system is
> moving on.  It looks like I'm going to have to take on that
> responsibility for a while if not permanently.  Said person had all his
> own tools, which are of course going with him.
>
> Can anyone recommend a decent tool set that doesn't cost the earth? I'm
> told I should at least have a butt set, a fox and hound, and a punch
> down tool.  It's all very colorful language that these telco folk use,
> isn't it?  Oh and probably some other stuff too.  A kit with all the
> goodies would be preferable to buying it piecemeal. Tons of results from
> the google... too many choices.  Anyone who's been there have something
> they especially like?
>
> Cheers,
> Roy
>
> --
>
> Roy McMorran
> Bar Harbor, ME
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> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:30:08 -0700
> From: Brent Chapman <br...@greatcircle.com>
> To: Roy McMorran <mcmor...@low-tide.com>
> Cc: LOPSA Technical Discussions <t...@lopsa.org>
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> This is the cheapest kit I've seen (about $200) that has what you need but
> not a lot extra:
>
>
> http://www.jameco.com/1/1/46573-ttk-1100-voip-telecom-installers-kit-tools.html
>
> The one thing I'd say it's missing, for a basic kit, is a type 66 blade for
> the punchdown tool, but you can add that for about $10 if you need it.
>
> I have no idea about the quality of this particular kit or manufacturer.
>
>
> -Brent
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Roy McMorran <mcmor...@low-tide.com>
> wrote:
>
> >  Hi all,
> >
> > So, the person who up to now has been managing our phone system is moving
> > on.  It looks like I'm going to have to take on that responsibility for a
> > while if not permanently.  Said person had all his own tools, which are
> of
> > course going with him.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a decent tool set that doesn't cost the earth?  I'm
> > told I should at least have a butt set, a fox and hound, and a punch down
> > tool.  It's all very colorful language that these telco folk use, isn't
> > it?  Oh and probably some other stuff too.  A kit with all the goodies
> > would be preferable to buying it piecemeal.  Tons of results from the
> > google... too many choices.  Anyone who's been there have something they
> > especially like?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roy
> >
> > --
> >
> > Roy McMorran **
> > Bar Harbor, ME**
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:39:11 -0700
> From: Ted Cabeen <t...@cabeen.org>
> To: Roy McMorran <mcmor...@low-tide.com>
> Cc: LOPSA Technical Discussions <t...@lopsa.org>
> Subject: Re: [lopsa-tech] Somewhat OT? - Tools for Telecom work
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> I've done a fair amount of telephone work, and have gotten by without a
> butt set.  The Toner and Punch down tool you can get from monoprice
> pretty cheaply:
> Toner:
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10524&cs_id=1052402
> Punch-Down:
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10509&cs_id=1050903&p_id=7043&seq=1&format=2
>
> I had a 66 Block 2-position modular adapter that I used when I needed to
> test a line.  That lets you plug a standard lined phone directly into
> the positions on your 66 block and saves the price of a butt set. That
> said, if you really want a butt set, Monoprice will sell you one of
> those too:
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10524&cs_id=1052401&p_id=8136&seq=1&format=2
>
> --Ted
>
> On 3/22/2013 5:31 PM, Roy McMorran wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > So, the person who up to now has been managing our phone system is
> > moving on.  It looks like I'm going to have to take on that
> > responsibility for a while if not permanently.  Said person had all his
> > own tools, which are of course going with him.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a decent tool set that doesn't cost the earth?  I'm
> > told I should at least have a butt set, a fox and hound, and a punch
> > down tool.  It's all very colorful language that these telco folk use,
> > isn't it?  Oh and probably some other stuff too.  A kit with all the
> > goodies would be preferable to buying it piecemeal.  Tons of results
> > from the google... too many choices.  Anyone who's been there have
> > something they especially like?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roy
> >
> > --
> >
> > Roy McMorran
> > Bar Harbor, ME
> >
> >
> >
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