It's cheap and easy to make a jerry-rigged butt set as well. I've been using a two line analog phone and two terminators I made for a while now for testing fax lines. Just make a keystone jack with alligator clips on the tip and ring pairs for testing at the block, and a connected pair of keystones for testing terminated cables. This rig has allowed me to test all the way through the line on-prem from the block to the device and everything in between. All bought and done with about $20 and 10 minutes of research.
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:00 AM, <tech-requ...@lists.lopsa.org> wrote: > Send Tech mailing list submissions to > tech@lists.lopsa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tech-requ...@lists.lopsa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tech-ow...@lists.lopsa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tech digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: nagios / cacti / spiceworks / zabbix / munin / zenoss > (Chuong Dao) > 2. Somewhat OT? - Tools for Telecom work (Roy McMorran) > 3. Re: Somewhat OT? - Tools for Telecom work (Brent Chapman) > 4. Re: Somewhat OT? - Tools for Telecom work (Ted Cabeen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:04:25 -0400 > From: Chuong Dao <c...@sentrilock.com> > To: LOPSA Technical Discussions <t...@lopsa.org> > Subject: Re: [lopsa-tech] nagios / cacti / spiceworks / zabbix / munin > / zenoss > Message-ID: > <708457ce8f619b479332976591577a871f29d85...@vmex.sentrilock.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am happy with Munin. It's simple and gives me what I need on Linux and > Windows. Sounds like it will do what you're asking too. Munin doesn't have > a nice dashboard so keeping 100+ servers on one screen might not fit on > your screen. I haven't try their latest version but heard that they have a > better "dashboard" design. > > From: tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org] > On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:52 AM > To: LOPSA Technical Discussions > Subject: [lopsa-tech] nagios / cacti / spiceworks / zabbix / munin / zenoss > > I've used zenoss before. Didn't like it. We had problems with the > accuracy of metrics (I think it buffer overflowed or something, getting > disk usage on a several TB volume, reported things like -50% full) ... even > though "technically" it could allow you to create custom metrics via ssh > and so forth, it was confusing, never got that working, etc. > > I haven't used any of these others. > > Looking at the nagios site, it looks like, you're supposed to install it > on the server you monitor. Installing httpd, mysql, configuring selinux, > etc. Which is not what I want. > > I want to install a centralized monitoring / alerting system, and deploy a > tiny little plugin (or something) to each of the systems to be monitored. > The production systems already run apache, mysql, etc, and I don't want > any dependencies on any installation packages to conflict or cause any > disruption to existing production services. If I need to configure httpd > on the system to be monitored, it's a nonstarter. > > I primarily care about linux systems (but other OSes are nice to support > too). Want alerts, both predictive and reactionary (notify me if a system > is down, but also notify me when disk usage is over 90% or the CPU stays > over 95% for 10 minutes, or the system begins thrashing swap, etc, so I can > hopefully avoid system down.) etc. > > Thanks for suggestions. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.lopsa.org/pipermail/tech/attachments/20130322/dfe2c666/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:31:16 -0400 > From: Roy McMorran <mcmor...@low-tide.com> > To: LOPSA Technical Discussions <t...@lopsa.org> > Subject: [lopsa-tech] Somewhat OT? - Tools for Telecom work > Message-ID: <514cf7d4.6050...@low-tide.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Hi all, > > So, the person who up to now has been managing our phone system is > moving on. It looks like I'm going to have to take on that > responsibility for a while if not permanently. Said person had all his > own tools, which are of course going with him. > > Can anyone recommend a decent tool set that doesn't cost the earth? I'm > told I should at least have a butt set, a fox and hound, and a punch > down tool. It's all very colorful language that these telco folk use, > isn't it? Oh and probably some other stuff too. A kit with all the > goodies would be preferable to buying it piecemeal. Tons of results from > the google... too many choices. Anyone who's been there have something > they especially like? > > Cheers, > Roy > > -- > > Roy McMorran > Bar Harbor, ME > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.lopsa.org/pipermail/tech/attachments/20130322/f87feda6/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:30:08 -0700 > From: Brent Chapman <br...@greatcircle.com> > To: Roy McMorran <mcmor...@low-tide.com> > Cc: LOPSA Technical Discussions <t...@lopsa.org> > Subject: Re: [lopsa-tech] Somewhat OT? - Tools for Telecom work > Message-ID: > < > cag3nqbpzo2hyjgzbtiqv0zo7vqjbjf+eg9frw8y9ar4uzyq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > This is the cheapest kit I've seen (about $200) that has what you need but > not a lot extra: > > > http://www.jameco.com/1/1/46573-ttk-1100-voip-telecom-installers-kit-tools.html > > The one thing I'd say it's missing, for a basic kit, is a type 66 blade for > the punchdown tool, but you can add that for about $10 if you need it. > > I have no idea about the quality of this particular kit or manufacturer. > > > -Brent > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Roy McMorran <mcmor...@low-tide.com> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > So, the person who up to now has been managing our phone system is moving > > on. It looks like I'm going to have to take on that responsibility for a > > while if not permanently. Said person had all his own tools, which are > of > > course going with him. > > > > Can anyone recommend a decent tool set that doesn't cost the earth? I'm > > told I should at least have a butt set, a fox and hound, and a punch down > > tool. It's all very colorful language that these telco folk use, isn't > > it? Oh and probably some other stuff too. A kit with all the goodies > > would be preferable to buying it piecemeal. Tons of results from the > > google... too many choices. Anyone who's been there have something they > > especially like? > > > > Cheers, > > Roy > > > > -- > > > > Roy McMorran ** > > Bar Harbor, ME** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech mailing list > > Tech@lists.lopsa.org > > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech > > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > > http://lopsa.org/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.lopsa.org/pipermail/tech/attachments/20130322/1b77c0f0/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:39:11 -0700 > From: Ted Cabeen <t...@cabeen.org> > To: Roy McMorran <mcmor...@low-tide.com> > Cc: LOPSA Technical Discussions <t...@lopsa.org> > Subject: Re: [lopsa-tech] Somewhat OT? - Tools for Telecom work > Message-ID: <514d31ef.1080...@cabeen.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I've done a fair amount of telephone work, and have gotten by without a > butt set. The Toner and Punch down tool you can get from monoprice > pretty cheaply: > Toner: > > http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10524&cs_id=1052402 > Punch-Down: > > http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10509&cs_id=1050903&p_id=7043&seq=1&format=2 > > I had a 66 Block 2-position modular adapter that I used when I needed to > test a line. That lets you plug a standard lined phone directly into > the positions on your 66 block and saves the price of a butt set. That > said, if you really want a butt set, Monoprice will sell you one of > those too: > > http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10524&cs_id=1052401&p_id=8136&seq=1&format=2 > > --Ted > > On 3/22/2013 5:31 PM, Roy McMorran wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > So, the person who up to now has been managing our phone system is > > moving on. It looks like I'm going to have to take on that > > responsibility for a while if not permanently. Said person had all his > > own tools, which are of course going with him. > > > > Can anyone recommend a decent tool set that doesn't cost the earth? I'm > > told I should at least have a butt set, a fox and hound, and a punch > > down tool. It's all very colorful language that these telco folk use, > > isn't it? Oh and probably some other stuff too. A kit with all the > > goodies would be preferable to buying it piecemeal. Tons of results > > from the google... too many choices. Anyone who's been there have > > something they especially like? > > > > Cheers, > > Roy > > > > -- > > > > Roy McMorran > > Bar Harbor, ME > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech mailing list > > Tech@lists.lopsa.org > > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech > > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > > http://lopsa.org/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tech mailing list > Tech@lists.lopsa.org > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > > > End of Tech Digest, Vol 89, Issue 19 > ************************************ > -- Darryl Hardy darryl.hard...@gmail.com
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