On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:20:40 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > Greg Troxel wrote in <rmijzuhkoa4....@s1.lexort.com>: > |Hauke Fath <ha...@espresso.rhein-neckar.de> writes: > |> attached is a diff with services that for some reason or other got > |> dropped from /etc/services - in particular Amanda* and AppleTalk. > | > |The really big question here is the relationship between our > |/etc/services and > | > | <https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.txt>
Indeed, and our /etc/services looks a lot more like a copycat of that file than like the output of Steffen's script - thanks for that. Has it ever been used for a commit, though? Looking at netbsd-5 for comparison, its etc/services has been properly line-wrapped to 80 columns, and it has a # Local NetBSD additions [aliases or missing stuff] section appended that is missing from later releases. The 'long form' was introduced by Christos' 1.95 commit. I would still argue, though, that the columns to the right of "Description" have no functionality, and could easily be looked up in the upstream reference. > |The use of mail for port 465 was apparently assigned briefly and then > |not (we have STARTTLS now) ... which <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8314> appears to deprecate in favour of non-plaintext connections: | o Connections to Mail Submission Servers and Mail Access Servers be | made using "Implicit TLS" (as defined below), in preference to | connecting to the "cleartext" port and negotiating TLS using the | STARTTLS command or a similar command. > | and how is assigned to urd. I never thought > |it was for submission. It is not in the current IANA file. So it's a > |good question why it remains at all. I am therefore not ok with adding \ > |smtps. > > submissions is a standard, RFC 8314: [...] IANA appears to have settled on submissions for port 465 (which, coincidentally, was assigned to 'urd' in the netbsd-5 version, and the NetBSD addition then declared the smtps alias). A web search for 'smtps' confirms widespread use, so this should be maintained as an alias for 'submissions' IMO. Cheerio, Hauke -- Hauke Fath <ha...@espresso.rhein-neckar.de> Linnéweg 7 64342 Seeheim-Jugenheim Germany
