On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Izaac wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 07:46:39AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > > So, opinions? > > Stop. > > Leave /bin/sh alone.
I strongly disagree and note the obvious internal inconsistency in your argument (such as it is): > If you want features for a scripting environment, use a different shell. > > The /bin/sh is an environment intended primarily to execute scripts. In the direction you seem to be headed lies the true and vivid idiocy of the Debian shell, which is *larger* than our shell (depending on platform and compiler flags, etc.) yet strips out functionality every other modern shell offers, such as command line editing -- for purely doctrinaire reasons, since after all, these features were in what they started with. Removing features as a way to enforce some kind of religious notion of programmer discipline (which seems to be what the rest of your message suggests) is dumb. I would like to see our shell remain about the size and speed it is (both of which are best-of-class) but gain something close to feature parity with ksh. I think Robert's work is getting us there. Thor
