Well then... let there be cries of encouragement to those nice Russian
engineers and god speed to your efforts...
I for one will eagerly wait the outcome of that effort with... say... a few
good component addition to the already nice indeed TACOS lib! ;-)

On 4/2/06, Sam Gendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ok, will do.  I'm up battling 12 hour jet lag from Moscow, and my
> brain is now well past the point of being able to concentrate on
> anything new, so it'll have to wait until next weekend, I fear.
> You'll probably start seeing queries from me sometime next weekend.
> The good news is that I have a crew of fairly talented Russian
> engineers to help implement this stuff once I've figured out an
> architecture and know enough to give them some direction, and the
> company isn't likely to have any issues with releasing our work back
> to the tapestry community under an open source license of some kind,
> so we can hopefully generate a very usable component library in fairly
> short order.
>
> I'll keep the list informed on our progress.
>
> --sam
>
>
> On 4/2/06, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Heh....I don't know what to say. That's a whole lot of discussion. You
> might
> > want to take a look at the turbo grid widget API before making any
> > assumptions about how it communicates with the server.
> >
> > On 4/2/06, Sam Gendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Given that I know nothing about dealing with this in Tapestry, could
> > > you elaborate on the JSON layer.  I assume I won't be able to glean
> > > much by picking apart your tacos code, since tacos is clearly not
> > > dependant on Tap 4.1.  I'm on the tapestry-dev list now, but that is a
> > > very recent thing.  I assume there is an archive, although I haven't
> > > looked for it, yet.
> > >
> > > Why would the server need to know about JSON at all?  Wouldn't any
> > > object be converted to XML and sent to the server as an
> > > XmlHttpRequest?  Unless you are talking about generating JSON in
> > > javascript, which I understand would be pretty difficult, now, in
> > > Tapestry.
> > >
> > > I'm assuming that for something like the data grid component, with in
> > > place edits, that each row would be sent to the server as it is
> > > updated, so there wouldn't be need for rewinding of a form, merely the
> > > new values of the properties for the object being updated along with a
> > > primary key or serialiazation of the old one. I would imagine the
> > > template would send an empty datagrid, and even the initial data
> > > population would happen via an ajax request, and subsequent updates
> > > would be a row at a time.  I figured I could look at how something
> > > like the tacos:Autocompleter calls the listener to fetch the list for
> > > an example of how to populate the datagrid and send updated rows back
> > > to the server.
> > >
> > > --sam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/2/06, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > None yet, but we'd love to add some sort of turbowidgets support.
> > > >
> > > > The JSON layer is there already in tapestry 4.1, so it's possble
> that it
> > > > might be do-able already. I'm sure Scott would be greatly
> appreciative
> > > of
> > > > people using his great library.
> > > >
> > > > On 4/2/06, Sam Gendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been browsing around, looking at various DHTML and AJAX
> solutions
> > > > > that are available.  The Turbo widgets look particularly polished
> and
> > > > > easy to use. They are free for non-commerical use and relatively
> > > > > low-cost for commercial use, so I'm wondering if anyone is using
> them
> > > > > successfully with Tapestry.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will admit that I'm a bit stumped about how to go about
> integrating
> > > > > some ajax functionality with Tapestry, due to constraints raised
> by
> > > > > the rewind mechanism, but I'm betting that solutions can be found
> for
> > > > > most issues.  The TurboGrid component is particularly compelling
> to
> > > > > me, allowing client side sorting and in place editing, as are the
> > > > > slider, which should be relatively easy to support within
> Tapestry.
> > > > >
> > > > > So is anyone out there playing with these, or interested in doing
> so?
> > > > > I'll surely be making an attempt in the near future, but I am
> fairly
> > > > > new to Tapestry, utterly new to dojo, and far from an expert
> > > > > DHTML/Javascript programmer.  I've always been a backend guy, but
> the
> > > > > two seem to be merging.  At any rate, I am in the middle of a
> > > > > commercial project, and some of those widgets are going to be
> required
> > > > > eventually, so I know I'll be digging into the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > So keep an eye out for future component announcements from me.
> > > > >
> > > > > --sam
> > > > >
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> > > >
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