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Adam Zimowski wrote:
>> In regard to the future:  I want us to have a larger Tapestry ecology - I 
>> see a
>> future with open source and commercial tools, where there are Tapestry CMS
>> products, E-commerce, support, etc.  There was a thread regarding promoting
>> Tapestry - how can we as a community follow up with this in an organized way?
> 
> At least nowdays, the best way to promote Tapestry is to build open
> source apps based on it that have a potential for high appeal to
> general public. You see all that PHP crap out there (like  open source
> forum tools, etc).  If we build apps on top of Tapestry, that in
> itself will promote the framework better than you tool you can build
> for it.
> 
> Adam

  I don't see the two statements above as being contradictory. The
question is: How?

  I've been interested in a Tapestry-based + Tapestry-capable CMS for
quite a while (allowing designers to do the HTML is great - until it has
to be 'built' and packaged into a war and deployed... don't know about
you, but not what I consider a designer's job). That's the single
'missing' cog in the "we got it right" scenario in my view. I delved
into the Lenya/Drupal arena to see how those methodologies could be
applied, but a more fundamental issue led me to Geoff and his efforts at
getting Spindle to work past 3.X.
  Getting that piece accomplished would allow more general purpose "have
a component" mixing - but those would be possible now although more at a
developer level if they existed (and they might - but where?).

  Going the other route - blogging, forums, and wikis. I can (and have)
set these three up with little effort. Granted, I end up with JSPs,
Velocity macros, XSLT and a slew of other technological approaches, but
I can do it. Why not "install" and voila - "Powered By Tapestry"? No
reason - just hasn't been done (standard 'or if it has, where?' caveat
applies)

  What I see from the Tapestry Support Network is specialized. May be
wrong - but that's the impression I get. While I wouldn't mind being a
part of that, I'd rather be a part of the "roll out" of products
developed with Tapestry. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,
but teach him to fish - and sell him the bait. That kind of thing. ;-)

  So. The "how". heh - beats me. If you figure it out, let me know. As I
said - I'd like to be a part of that. :-)
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