for the record i've never put down .net here , just marketing practices . I think .net is the best thing after Tapestry when it comes to component oriented applications . And yes , .net is a great on stop product that doesn't have you searching mailing lists for 20 products to get one going .
On 12/8/05, Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The thing .net has going for it is the same thing most microsoft > stuff has going for it. It's a one stop solution. You buy .net. You install > the CDs. You start developing your web app. There's no third party libaries > to download, no jboss to configure, no tomcat/eclipse integration to dick > around with, no four hour forum search to decide between Cayanne and > Hibernate. > > It just ... works, and it does everything inside of one IDE. > > That being said, I obviously think it has major deficiencies as > well, that's why I'm working in java/tapestry instead of MS/.NET. If you're > already a Microsoft shop though, I can't really think of any compelling > reason *not* to go .net. > > That's the thing I think the open source world tends to do badly; > integration. A lot of well engineered point products exist out there, but > nobody wants to do the tedious, error prone, and inglorious work of putting > them all together into a whole. > > Even tapestry, which is a pretty rich framework, isn't a one stop > shop. Consider to make an actual tapestry app, you're probably going to need > to download and integrate. > > 1) A JVM. > 2) AN IDE (I like eclipse) > 3) A J2EE Container (I like tomcat) > 4) A database (I'm partial to mySQL) > 5) A database driver (mysql jdbc works for me) > 6) A persistence layer (I like hibernate) > 7) A web framework (I like tapestry). > > Ok and to make an actual .net app I have too ... > > 1) Put .net cd in drive. > 2) Push "install". > 3) Swap CDs as needed. > > --- Pat > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:18 AM > > To: Tapestry users > > Subject: Re: tapestry to JSF conversion > > > > Well....I actually think .Net is pretty damn cool personally, I just don't > > have the time/resources to even consider it in anything I'm doing right > > now. > > Regardless of how evil and f-ed up microsoft is, they have some pretty > > damn > > brilliant engineers working for them here and there. > > > > On 12/8/05, Cosmin Bucur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I know what you guys are saying ... > > > > > > and that's exactly what happends when HR and management people are not > > > in touch with technology . Then we get people running to .net because > > > they've read in a business magasine owned by MS that .net is > > > suppoerior in all aspects : ) > > > > > > On 12/8/05, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's unfortunate that hiring practices work that way sometimes. I > > don't > > > > think we've ever hired a developer based solely on the technologies > > > they > > > > use and are familiar with, but mostly on our quick and dirty "just how > > > > intelligent and geeky are you"? blitzkrieg of technical questions ;) > > > > > > > > Isn't google hiring tapestry developers now? We'll see. > > > > > > > > On 12/8/05, Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it offends me, at least. But OS projects have to get > > > > > *merit* to override "corporate standards" and that's what a lot of > > OS > > > > > developers fail to see. Last time I check Struts wasn't an official > > > > > standard, and Tapestry could go the same path, if it sticks with > > > > > corporate values such as stability, marketing, support, etc ;). > > > > > > > > > > All open source, of course. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi > > > > > DTQ Software > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: tapestry-user- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
