<snip> > Didn't mention that if you found a bug and maybe even help to fix it > or you're experience help correcting a wired behaviour, you could > contribute something back to the project as well. > > Regards > -- > Massimo
Fundamentally though, I'm not in the business of debugging Tapestry. I've no objection to contributing things to the community (take a look at my tabset control, my switch/case implementation, or my secure direct links code), but that's something I do as an adjunct to, rather than a core part of, my work. So if I happen to trip and fall down the stairs into a Tapestry bug and fix it, sure, I'll put it on the JIRA. When I'm working on a commercial product though, I'll never go out of my way to expose myself to additional somebody else's bugs in order to fix them. I just can't afford that big a potential hit in my personal productivity, whatever the advantages to society at large. Likewise, as others have mentioned, the Tapestry API does change from Beta to Beta (and from 3.0.3 to 4.0). For folks like me, who come from the commercial enterprise software world, that's a huge blinking red flag screaming "STAY AWAY!" If I changed *even one* API call on a commercial product, my customers would drag me through the coals. I *might* get away with it on a major version number release, but I'd have to document the willies out of it and even then I'd have dozens of irate folks calling support and beer thrown at me at the User conference. Even had a product rejected from production because you changed the collation order of the oomlaut character? I have :). Ever had to make a trip the upper peninsula in winter to personally apologize for deprecating a 1970s era MVS specific function your largest customer used extensively? I have :). NON TAPESTRY SPECIFIC RANT ON: I understand and accept that things are different in the open-source world, so I don't (usually) grouse about it, but at an emotional level it's still a huge subconscious risk factor. The velocity of change is so fast on a project like Tapestry (or, even more accurately, like BIRT) that my immediate response is A) pick stable version B) don't change it until absolutely necessary. It's not even the change, specifically that sets off my "danger Will Robinson"-meter, rather it's the *incompatible* changes. Even something as mature and "stable" as Hibernate has been known to break stuff between x.x1 and x.x2 (if I recall going from 3.0.3 3.0.5 took me two days because something or other changed). I mean really, making a non-backwards compatible change in a major version change is risky enough, making it in a minor version change is a head scratcher, but doing it in a bug-fix *hundredths digit* change :)? RANT OFF: In any event, my point is that different people have different needs and expectations in the software packages they choose to use. I have a very high need for stability and predictability, and a low tolerance for change. Partly this is the nature of my work, partly it's simply my programming personality; once I get something "done" I want it to *stay* done come hell or high water. So, if you've a high risk tolerance and want to develop on Beta's, more power to you. Seriously, that's great because it's because of folks like you that Beta's get well tested and (ultimately), folks like me get stable code. You have to recognize though that my subset of the developer community is *never* going to do any actual work on anything with the word "beta" in its name. Our life experience simply teaches us that it's an unacceptable risk. --- Pat --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]