Gareth wrote:
Ah,

I'm pleased to see that there are people using this mailing list - LoL

I'm trying to get started with Tapestry, and have so far written everything by
hand, have completed the example / tutorial on the tapestry webpage, and have
attempted building a few pages of my own, but I have realised when looking at
the library example, that the login deals with the visit object etc about which
I had not looked (because it wasnt in the tutorial).  I was just about set to
build a little example that logged someone in (checking against a dbase using
hibernate + Spring), when I came across a post comparing Tapestry VS. JSF on
the Serverside webpage.  This indicated that the visit object and global (think
that was the one) were on the cards for being deprecated in favour of something
else.

Could someone please comment of the deprecation issue, thanks.

in tapestry 4 they both still exist, there is however another application state objects "repository" using (like everything in T4) hivemind. read about server state in the user guide.


Also, I have come across spindle, a plugin for eclipse (my fav. editor), and I
noticed it will work with eclipse 3.1, but only supports tapestry 3... because
of the major changes (I read) between 3 and 4, and my unwillingness to learn
and write something only to have to change it, I am using tapestry 4, so my
question is, will spindle be updated to support tapestry 4, and if so when.


ask Geoff. Currently there is spindle for 3.0 only.

I was a little concerned about the comment in the serverside article that
essentially said that tapestry does not look like it will be adopted on a large
scale, simply because of the steep learning curve... as someone new to it, I
can certainly agree that the learning curve is pretty much vertical, but is
this something that is on the cards to change?  One thing that would help
1000000% is to have more tutorials, taking people through form submission and
logging in for instance.

There are exelent books around which explain everything in great detail. (wiki->t4->howtos) Also there are some excelent tutorials - look in the wiki, there are some links there.



Thanks

Gareth Deli
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