OGNL is not quite stale. Drew is extremely busy, though, so it certainly hasn't gotten the attention from him many would like. He's donated the project to OpenSymphony:
'
    http://www.opensymphony.com/ognl/

But I believe the transition to OS is still in progress. I encourage those with interest in rejuvenating OGNL and pushing through the performance enhancements tap into the OGNL e-mail lists and prod and patch in the right direction.

    Erik


On Aug 30, 2005, at 8:33 AM, Mark White wrote:


Looking at the OGNL website it appears to be a stale project - v3
preview 2 was released over a year ago, with seemingly no activity
since, however there is some info in the thread at:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/11431

Mark.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 August 2005 16:59
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Tapestry performance

holy crap, awesome :) Well, wtf drew? ;) ...
On 8/26/05, Mind Bridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Someone with a lot of time on their hands and a clever mind could
probably speed up all of those ognl calls by turning them into
javassist or cglib enhancements on the components.



I already did that more than an year or two ago and sent some sample
code to Drew. I believe he took the ideas into account when designing
the new version of OGNL. Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to
follow up and help out.

The speedup achieved back then was around 9 times for OGNL and about 3



times for Tapestry. I am guessing you would see similar numbers when
using the new OGNL version.

-mb

Jesse Kuhnert wrote:


Someone with a lot of time on their hands and a clever mind could
probably speed up all of those ognl calls by turning them into
javassist or cglib enhancements on the components. Kind of like
hibernate does.

I don't know anyone who has that kind of time though ;) Maybe
someone's employer will decide that they absolutely ~must~ have
tapestry run faster and will fund the development of said
enhancements. :)

j
On 8/26/05, Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



My tests show that Tapestry is definitely slower than
Struts+Tiles or Struts+Sitemesh but faster tham
JSF(MyFaces).

In all cases performance is very adequate.



Konstantin Ignatyev




PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add
fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square



miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert,
eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one
million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere,



and increase their population by 263,000

Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement



Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New



York:  State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)

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