Wow!  Didn't realize this big change. I think updates should not
happen unless validations pass.  You run the risk of triggering
unwanted validation exceptions *inside* your domain objects that will
prevent normal form processing from operating.

On 8/23/05, Paul Ferraro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ben is right.  Currently, values are bound only if translation succeeds
> (this is essential), but before validation happens.
> This was done purposefully to support "Save" style logic, since
> validation errors can optionally be ignored in the triggered form
> listener by ignoring the value of IValidationDelegate.getHasErrors().
> I put this logic in place before the veto logic was implemented (I think
> - although I work probably overlapped).  This is easy enough to change.
> In 3.0, ValidField values could only be bound if and only if validation
> succeeded since the old IValidators were responsible for both
> translation and validation.
> Since this limitation no longer exists, we have the option of binding
> value either before or after the validators run.
> 
> What are the advantages/disadvantages to each approach?
> 
> Paul
> 
> Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> 
> >Validation does not work that way, not to my knowledge.  Even with the
> >new validation, the translator and validators all have veto power, by
> >throwing ValidationException, before an update occurs to the bound
> >property.
> >
> >TAPESTRY-369 was a suggestion that was since judged invalid. It is not
> >how Tapestry operates.
> >
> >On 8/23/05, Ben Pryor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm upgrading a large Tapestry 3 application to Tapestry 4.  One
> >>unexpected behavior is that the new validation system appears to always
> >>update a form component's bound property before doing validation and
> >>recording any errors. There is a JIRA issue from July that mentions this
> >>behavior (http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-369). The
> >>problem is that almost everywhere in our application     we expect the
> >>bound property to only be updated if validation succeeds.
> >>
> >>How do others handle this situation with the new validation? Should the
> >>validation system be flexible enough to allow for sometimes updating the
> >>bound property when in error and sometimes not?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >> Ben
> >>
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