I tested this on my n95 all combo boxes work as expected. I also changed the subject to try and get more responses. I still think this only effects certain phones.
Dennis long Sent from my n95 using a symbion screen reader -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) From: "Kit" <goldeneagl...@gmail.com> Date: 03/21/2012 1:11 AM Ok, I am using E6 and these are my findings on the web u provided for us to test. 1. I select booking and at the depart from combo, I tried Right & Left and then select, it will not open. Then I will try Right & Right and Select and it will open for you to select the country. So, seems like right & left select, then right & right select. 2. Once you have managed to open 1 combo box, the rest, no need to use left or right, just pressing select will open the combo. 3. And for this, not sure if it's bug or what to call. E6, we must tab at softkey-2 to get menu and every time I touch that spot, the dam combo box appear again asking me to select country to depart. Even if I move it away from this combo box, just to a place with text only, still the combo box to select country appear. Only way out is to simply just select a country and then the actual menu which should come will appear for selection. On this mentioned page, it will just activate not only the country selection, even the class selection combo will also appear when you tab on soft-key-2 screen area. Same, have to cancel and then only the menu will appear. 4. In web browsing, when pressed Call-key to find for text, the calling edit box will appear for us to make a phone call. We then have to cancel it which only the Find edit box will appear. Is this only in E6 or other models? Can someone using E5 test that pls. Regards, KITT. ----- Original Message ----- From: <m...@chopra.us> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) Thanks but it does not work. I always used to make my flight booking on this site http://mobile1.emirates.com/?lang=en_US Now with the new Talks I cannot. So now I am going backwards :( aall because I cannot access combo boxes with new Talks :( -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) From: "Matheus Rheine" <an...@bol.com.br> Date: 20/03/2012 6:47 PM hi! i'm using a nokia e5 with updated firmware to 081.004 and talks 5.30, apparently i managed to access the combo boxes, when you're navigating links,headings,etc in the browser and you find one box, if you press select it won't work, however if you move right and left 2 times and press select it will open the box and allow you to select what you want. i don't know if it will work with other phones and i'm not 100% sure if these are the exact steps, but you can try experimenting and see the results. please post here if it works. thanks!! -----Mensagem original----- De: m...@chopra.us Para: Talks Mailing List <talks@talksusers.com> Data: Terça, 20 de Março de 2012 18:39 Assunto: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) Hey Eleanor! Have you tried to make a selection from a combo box? well with the new Talks you can't. It makes access to so much info impossible. I just can't do anything! -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorbu...@btinternet.com> Date: 20/03/2012 9:23 AM I cannot even have any feedback when writing in Edit box On Google search box with my C 5 which I am trying right now. facebook. Here is something more frustrating. I am writing in predictive text on C 5 and I had to spell facebook as it was not in the dictionary -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) From: "Kit" <goldeneagl...@gmail.com> Date: 20/03/2012 4:48 am Denise, If we forgo this new version, our email and web won't work. Actually, it's not the problem of TW or FB but more of the type of edit box which they use to write those pages. So, simplest is to find the type and solve that issue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) What everyone is forgetting is it isn't always easy to track down bugs and it wouldn't be effective to put out a update just for facebook and twitter. If you don't like the new version then downgrade to the one before it and wait for the new version. I'm sure the dealers have passed on the feedback. Are you all forgetting that without talks we wouldn't have had accessibility for all these years lets be patient. If an update is rushed out then you would be complaining if it broke something that worked. Talks has always been about stability so relax people there are alternatives. ----- Original Message ----- From: <m...@chopra.us> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) > Exactly my point. I had put out an email a couple of weeks ago. Nuance is > just not interested in Talks any more. > > -original message- > Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an > iPhone) > From: "Kit" <goldeneagl...@gmail.com> > Date: 19/03/2012 5:46 AM > > It's amazing the testers, either Alpha or Omega or Beta missed this bug on > FB and Twitter. It's so commonly used by so many people in the world and > also always ask on accessibility in Talks list. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorbu...@btinternet.com> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an > iPhone) > > > Fair points, but I mean the Testers must be reading our mails too and > surely > they must be finding the same issues as ourselves so I am wondering why > they > are not reporting back to the Developers. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fi Dunn" <f...@fidunn.plus.com> > To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an > iPhone) > > >> Ah, well, I have done some beta testing, although never for talks, and >> you >> have to sign agreements about not disclosing various things, which can >> depend on the software in question. It always says you won't share >> features of upcoming versions you are testing, though, whichever company. >> >> Also, the hassle some of them on here would get from people trying to >> weedle information out of them would be horrific, if they disclosed that >> they were testers, I should imagine. >> >> Fi >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >> Sent: 18 March 2012 23:10 >> To: Talks Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an >> iPhone) >> >> Or if not developers, maybe even Testers, though I do not think the >> Testers openly say who they are either. >> >> Eleanor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fi Dunn" <f...@fidunn.plus.com> >> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:53 PM >> Subject: [Talks] Developers, are you there? (wasI just bought an iPhone) >> >> >>> Exactly, this silence is really frustrating. >>> >>> Developers, are you there? >>> >>> Fi >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>> Sent: 18 March 2012 22:15 >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone >>> >>> Well said Fi but I must just make another point about the e-mail and >>> Talks >>> and indeed I raised this within a few days of latest release of Talks >>> but >>> it was met with a wall of silence. When we want to read an e-mail we >>> have >>> all this additional information that we do not want, the number of >>> frames >>> the first frame being untitled and consisting of 2 colms, when the first >>> frame finishes and when the second frame starts. Not only that, it is >>> 50 >>> 50 if Talks even picks up the e-mail on first go, I am often treated to >>> Browser Browser Browser and have to repeat the Talks and arrow down yet >>> again. >>> >>> Eleanor >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Fi Dunn" <f...@fidunn.plus.com> >>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone >>> >>> >>>> I agree totally, especially about E-mail and the FaceBook and Twitter >>>> jabbering while you're inputting text issue, which is really >>>> annoying!!! >>>> It's far easier for me to use my Android, iPhone or even ... um ... >>>> Mobile >>>> speak on faceBook! Yes, it doesn't do some other stuff that the very >>>> latest Talks does, but they haven't broken edit boxes on social >>>> networking >>>> sites up till now. Why should these be broken when they were fine >>>> before? >>>> I have only upgraded Talks, not my firmware or anything lately. I'm not >>>> sure if I should upgrade to the new versions of software available, >>>> either. Will facebook and Twitter edit boxes still be broken, even >>>> after >>>> that? Will my E-mail be even worse? We don't seem to get answers to >>>> such >>>> questions from developers the way they do on the Android list ... and >>>> most >>>> of the Android screen readers are free! So we've kept on and on paying >>>> for >>>> Talks and can't access E-mail very well, and the Ovi Store isn't even a >>>> joke! It's worse! As far as I know, there hasn't really been any >>>> explanation about why this doesn't work well, but the same applies with >>>> Mobile Speak there. Code factory did, at least make older phones read >>>> E-mail better, though. Having to arrow down to read the body of an >>>> E-mail >>>> really is primitive! >>>> >>>> I tend to do most of my mailing on my HTC or iPhone for that reason >>>> these >>>> days. >>>> >>>> I love the design of Nokia phones, and the Vocaliser voices used with >>>> talks, but, if you want to keep us on side, at least give us some >>>> reasons >>>> why this stuff doesn't work well in Symbian, when it does on other >>>> platforms, please! >>>> >>>> Thank you for reading this. These are thoughts I have had for a number >>>> of >>>> months now, not just something I thought of today. I've already pretty >>>> much decided my next new phone ... and I like new phones ... often ... >>>> will almost certainly not b a Nokia on Symbian, with its inaccessible >>>> Ovi >>>> Store, most apps and half-baked e-mail access. >>>> >>>> If people think I'm being harsh, I'm sorry. However, I say all this >>>> after >>>> using all three platforms, so I do know what I am comparing. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Fi >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com >>>> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>>> Sent: 18 March 2012 21:39 >>>> To: Talks Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone >>>> >>>> Christopher I am very pleased to read what you write below re Talks and >>>> iPhone. I am aware of more and more blind people making the move over >>>> to >>>> iPhone and I am thinking seriously about it for my necxt phone, >>>> however, >>>> I >>>> have been a Talks user for 4 years now and my appeal here is to the >>>> Talks >>>> developers not to let the iPhone and Android take over the market of >>>> screen readers for the blind. My Symbian S60 has met all my needs up to >>>> 2011 but Talks is not meeting my needs at present. What then are my >>>> problems? >>>> >>>> 1. E-mail accessability is not what it was. I cannot seem to find a way >>>> on >>>> my E6 to save a new e-mail address. >>>> 2. As pointed out by another list member, over a week ago, the Edit >>>> boxes >>>> in Twitter and Facebook have Talks continually saying edit box while >>>> one >>>> is writing. Yet this has only become an issue with Talks released in >>>> February 2012. What surprises me is that such an issue is not known at >>>> release time. Surely the developers run through e-mail, internet and >>>> social network sites prior to release. >>>> 3. Despite all I said over months about the work around on E6 to start >>>> writing in a word document. My comments were not listened to. >>>> >>>> Finally Talks developers, I love Talks and do not want to stop using >>>> this >>>> excellent and reasonably priced software, but if my comments and those >>>> of >>>> other users fall on deaf ears, then we may be forced to go out and >>>> purchase an alternative mobile device than the symbian S60 one. >>>> -----Original message----- >>>> From: Christopher Chaltain >>>> Sent: 18/03/2012, 3:28 pm >>>> To: Talks Mailing List >>>> Subject: [Talks] I just bought an iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, after being a happy Symbian and Talks user for almost exactly 9 >>>> years, I finally decided to get a new smart phone, and this time I went >>>> with an iPhone. Not that why I did so is important to anyone, but I'll >>>> include some of my thoughts below, as well as how much I appreciate >>>> Talks >>>> and the Symbian platform. >>>> >>>> I started using Talks while it was still in beta back at the end of >>>> 2002. >>>> I got a Nokia 9290 communicator, and I think this, in conjunction with >>>> Talks, was the first fully accessible smart phone available to the >>>> blind. >>>> I've had 2 Symbian phones since then, the Nokia N75 and the AT&T Nokia >>>> E71X. Each phone had it's strengths and weaknesses, but in general, >>>> I've >>>> never been disappointed with Symbian or Talks. >>>> >>>> My decision to go with an iPhone was a tough one, although that was as >>>> much philosophical as anything else. I type on my E71X much less than I >>>> used to, so the thought of going with a touch only device became less >>>> of >>>> a >>>> concern for me. I was kind of waiting for the Droid 4 (which will have >>>> a >>>> keyboard), but I wasn't sure when or if AT&T would ever carry the Droid >>>> 4, >>>> and after reading multiple reviews of Android and Ice Cream Sandwich, >>>> it >>>> seemed like I'd be waiting quite a while for Android to catch up with >>>> the >>>> iPhone with respect to accessibility. >>>> >>>> The closed nature of the iPhone also concerned me when comparing it to >>>> an >>>> Android, or even a Symbian, phone, but I use the cloud more and more, >>>> and >>>> I eventually decided that I could leverage the cloud enough to minimize >>>> my >>>> need to use Windows or iTunes. >>>> >>>> I also started finding myself needing an IOS or Android device for work >>>> and wanting one for personal use, e.g. the apps I needed for work or >>>> wanted to use personally were only available on the IOS or Android >>>> platforms. Although there isn't anything wrong with my E71X, it is >>>> starting to show it's age, and once I decided Android would be playing >>>> catch up with the iPhone with respect to accessibility for quite some >>>> time >>>> to come, even given Ice Cream Sandwich. I decided there was no longer >>>> any >>>> reason to wait. >>>> >>>> I just want to say that I never slammed the iPhone, so I don't think >>>> I'm >>>> being hypocritical at all. I still feel the Symbian device and Talks >>>> are >>>> perfectly adequate solutions for the right situation, and I don't think >>>> anyone needs to feel like they're being left behind if they choose to >>>> continue to use a Symbian device for another handset or two. It's all >>>> about what you want and what gets the job done. >>>> >>>> I just want to conclude by letting the Talks developers and this list >>>> know >>>> how much I appreciated the technological advances made by the Talks >>>> developers. They were truly visionaries. I also want this list to know >>>> how >>>> much I appreciated the support I got from this list and it's members. >>>> I'm >>>> convinced that without Symbian, Talks and this list, I would not have >>>> been >>>> a satisfied blind smart phone user these past nine years. >>>> >>>> I'll hang out on this list for a bit, and I'm sure I'll see some of you >>>> on >>>> more generic lists, but eventually I'll have to unsubscribe from this >>>> list, unless of course, I can't stand the iPhone and come back to >>>> Talks! >>>> Wow, this all seems a bit melodramatic, but Talks and this list have >>>> actually been a big part of my life for most of a decade, so I hope >>>> y'all >>>> will forgive my drama! 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