Hello,

Thanks for the update!  The one question I have, is wether it is already 
possible to exit out of the browser mode (TALKS Key + Down Arrow)?

Kind regards,
Davy

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From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:58
To: Talks Mailing List; talks...@freelists.org; The Accessible Phones 
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Subject: [Talks] Release Notification Talks v5.30

Dear All,

A brief note to inform you all that Nuance Talks v5.30 is now available for 
download from the TalkNav FTP site at the following URL:

http://www.talknav.com/downloads/Nuance%20Accessibility/Symbian/3rd%20&%205th%20Edition%20Handsets/

Please see below for the full Release Notification:

Should you need any upgrade licenses etc, please do remember that TalkNav's 
online store is available 24 hous a day 7 days a week.

Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.30
Release Notification
1. Introduction
We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite – Nuance 
TALKS and ZOOMS – Version 5.30 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th Edition / 
Symbian^3 for February 29, 2012.

Version 5.30 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated after 
November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition). In 
particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is 
currently able to run version 4.11 or 5 without requiring a new license.

Please note that, as in previous versions, ZOOMS screen magnification is 
currently supported only on Series 60 3rd Edition and 5th Edition phones.
2. Changes to the list of supported phones The main focus in this version is 
support for Symbian^3 phones that have installed the “Belle” firmware update. 
The following handsets, which are shipping with Belle pre-installed, are newly 
supported:

Nokia 700
Nokia 701

We also assume the Nokia 500 to work without major problems. However we have 
not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this.

See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version.

3. What’s New?
This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.30 compared to the 
previous version (5.22).
3.1. Support for Nokia Belle upgrade
The major addition to this release of TALKS is the addition for support for the 
Nokia Belle upgrade, which is the latest refresh of the
Symbian^3 platform used on recent touch devices.

“Belle” provides some performance improvements over the “Anna” update, and 
TALKS will generally provides the same level of access to Belle as to previous 
versions of Symbian^3.

However, using a few areas of the phone with a screen reader will be slightly 
less convenient after the upgrade (e.g. the home screen and the phone’s main 
menu), so a certain learning curve is to be expected.
Following is a list of some specific known issues that have been observed 
during testing:

• The virtual keyboard displayed when entering a WLAN key is currently not 
accessible.
• When moving between the To/cc/… fields the name of the current e-mail account 
is repeated.
• Automatic labelling of home screen icons is currently not supported.
• Home screen index is currently not read.
• If the virtual keyboard is closed after not entering text for about 5 
seconds, the application will remain silent and not even produce speech when 
“exploring”, as TALKS has gone into a “power saving” mode. Pressing any 
physical key will resolve this.

Please note that upgrading to Belle is only possible using the Nokia Suite 
application on the PC, which may require sighted assistance because of a lack 
of screen reader compatibility.
3.2. Performing long taps on Symbian^3
With the addition of Belle, but also in earlier versions of Symbian^3, 
increasing use is made of the “long tap” gesture, which consists of holding 
down the finger on the screen until a menu appears (the waiting period is 
indicated by a vibration signal). For example, in Belle it is required for 
deleting widgets from the home screen, and it can also be used to bring up 
useful shortcuts on menu items in other places.

However, this gesture conflicts with the TALKS gesture of holding down the 
finger for half a second to start exploring the screen.

To initiate a long tap on an object in Symbian^3 with TALKS, the following 
method can be used, which requires some practice, but gives access to features 
that are otherwise unavailable:

• Explore in the usual way to find the object on the display.
• Lift the finger from the screen.
• Put the finger back onto the screen – note that you will have to hit the 
object exactly, rather than tapping anywhere on the screen.
• Shortly afterwards, but within half a second, bring down a second finger 
anywhere on the display, and keep it down.
• You should now feel the phone vibrate for a moment, and then hear an 
announcement of the popup menu, or another confirmation that the long tap was 
recognized.
• Now lift both fingers again, and explore to find the context menu (or, for 
example, the “Clear” button in the upper right corner of a widget that can be 
used to remove it from the Belle home screen).
3.3. Reading the contents of browser views Newer versions of Symbian make 
increasing use of embedded browser views in certain applications.

Examples are the contents of an e-mail that has been opened or the text of a 
help page. The Conversations view in Symbian^3 also consists of a browser view. 
These views are usually read as “Browser” by TALKS.

To get access to their contents, press [Talks],[Down] once and wait for the 
“Page has…” announcement. After that, the e-mail or help text can be accessed 
as if it were a web page, using [Up], [Down] and the usual quick keys.
3.4. Other changes
This section lists further changes to TALKS that were made in this update:

Application support:

• 3rd Edition: popups with icon names in Gallery are now read.
• 3rd Edition FP2: list of search results in phone application is now read. 
This allows quickly searching for contacts with the name “John” by entering 
5646 as if it were a phone number, and then using [Up] and [Down] to go through 
the list of entries.
• Improved compatibility with recent Nokia Maps builds for touch screens
(3.08 and 3.09 beta).
• Labeled some important icons in Nokia Maps, such as the map center symbol, 
which shows the position to which the street name shown by Maps refers, and the 
current position. The button "Go to my position" can be used to center the 
current GPS position again.
• Support for WhatsApp messenger (reading of lists and conversation view).
• E-Mails in the new Nokia Mail application are now read with access to all 
links and attachments after pressing [Talks], [Down] to make the browser view 
accessible.
• Labeled additional icons in several applications.

Touch improvements:

• Made "Missed events" window explorable (Anna/Belle) • Made e-mail folder view 
explorable (Anna/Belle) • Anna: Focused e-mail folder in "Move message to" is 
read.
• Popup menus appearing after a long tap are now read.

Other changes:

• Removed support for Wayfinder Access application, as the service is no longer 
active.
• Call waiting bubble is recognized during phone call, and read when screen is 
next checked for updates (e.g. after pressing a key)

Bug fixes:

• 3rd Edition: fixed repeating of application icons on home screen.
• Focus in e-mail inbox is now recognized even if focus is also "stuck"
on one of the buttons (e.g. Sorting)
• Browser: File upload buttons now open a file selector, rather than a text box 
(on phones that require the text box workaround for text input).
• Browser: Fixed closing or out of memory error when passing over frames in 
different domain (seen at www.convertfiles.com on E75, Browser 7.1) • Browser: 
Fixed bug that caused some dynamic changes to a web page to leave parts of it 
inaccessible afterwards.
• Object Viewer: fixed bug that caused some objects (especially unknown
types) to not appear in list - this may cause a small number of object viewer 
roles to need redefinition, but should generally help accessibility of unknown 
objects.
• Fixed various cases where labels of softkeys were not read together with 
window, only when exploring (e.g. Anna media player and “Missed events” popup).
• Fixed rare cases where audio device would repeat last piece of speech (or 
silence) endlessly, possibly reducing battery life or interfering with other 
audio.
4. Known Issues with specific phones and apps This section lists some 
frequently reported known problems and limitations that may occur when using 
TALKS with particular handsets or
apps:

• Daisy2go on Symbian Anna: after adding a new book to the bookshelf, the 
application will close. However, the book is added correctly and can be used 
after starting the application again.
• Nokia browser 7.3: opening drop-down lists by pressing [Select] currently 
does not work reliably, due to a bug in the browser.
• Nokia E7-00: the default [Talks] key on this phone is the [Menu] key at the 
front of the device. On phones without Symbian Anna update, this key will not 
behave correctly if it is pressed twice too quickly, or if the touch screen is 
used within about a second after pressing [Talks].
It is recommended to upgrade to Symbian Anna, or to always wait a moment after 
pressing the [Talks] key on this phone.
• Symbian^3 (without Symbian Anna update): double-tapping on a scroll bar may 
lead to a restart of the phone, especially if it is done quickly after opening 
a new window.
• Nokia C5-03: In the List view of the main menu, no cursor is displayed when 
moving around with the side keys, so the focus is not spoken. As a workaround, 
use either Grid view, or explore the screen to select menu items.
• Touch phones, mostly 5th Edition: Currently, some menus for switching to 
other keyboard layouts and for picking suggestions from the T9 dictionary are 
not fully accessible. Switching to other keyboard layouts is not recommended on 
5th Edition phones, as some of them (e.g.
mini-Qwerty or handwriting) are not yet supported by TALKS, and can be 
difficult to exit.
• 5th Edition only: On some phones opening the symbol table in the on-screen 
keyboard can lead to the keyboard stopping to take input until you press [Exit] 
to go to the main menu, and then return to the application where you were 
entering text.
• 5th Edition only: text entry into an object announced as “Fields”
(e.g. a date or a time) is not supported well by this version of TALKS, as the 
virtual keyboard cannot be used with speech. This limits the use of the 
Calendar and Clock applications that rely on these types of objects for date 
and time input.
• N97: training mode will read the digits, rather than the letters, for the 
keys in the top row of the QWERTY keyboard.
• 3rd Edition (FP1 and FP2): the “Search” application is not supported.
• 3rd Edition FP2: You will notice a slow response of voice recognition "beep" 
after holding [Key 2] when TALKS is not muted • E75: When using ZOOMS, moving 
around the screen by holding down the cursor keys is currently not possible. 
The magnified portion of the screen always follows the current focus position.
5. FAQ
Q: Your software does not install on my E-Series handset or branded device, and 
reports a Certificate Error! Why?
A: While TALKS&ZOOMS for Symbian itself is certified, and thus can be installed 
on any supported handset, the installers for the TTS engines (Eloquence or 
Vocalizer for Mobile) are not signed. E-Series handsets and some branded 
devices only accept the installation of signed software, unless you turn of the 
corresponding option inside the Application Manager:
• Open the phone menu.
• Open the App. Manager inside the Tools folder • Press “Options”, then select 
“Settings”.
• Set “Software Installation” from “Signed only” to “All”.
• Press “Back” to close the Settings dialogue, then “Exit” to close the App. 
Manager.
• Now, you can install the TTS engine.
Another reason could be that the date on your phone is not set correctly – as 
Symbian apps need to be digitally signed, SIS files can only be installed if 
the phone is set to a valid date.

Q: Can I install the new release of TALKS&ZOOMS, while a previous release is 
active?
A: Yes, if the new version is installed to the same memory location as the 
previous release. If you would like to change the memory location, you have to 
remove the previous release first!

Q: Why do I get an “Upgrade error” when installing the S60 3rd/5th Edition 
version?
A: The most likely reasons are that you have used a beta release, or already 
have the Nokia TTS driver available that was installed as a separate file with 
version 3.10. Please remove any beta version, as well as the Nokia TTS driver 
or the Nuance Speech2Go Reader application, before upgrading to TALKS 5.22.

Q: Why do I get an “Invalid serial number” error when trying to activate a demo 
version of TALKS, even though I have entered the code correctly and never used 
TALKS on this phone before?
A: The most likely reason is that TALKS thinks the demo has already “expired” 
because the date on the phone is set incorrectly, usually to some date in the 
future.

Q: Why do the side keys on my touch screen phone no longer move the cursor 
after upgrading to the latest version of TALKS?
A: Some keyboard functions, such as [Talks],[digit] shortcuts on the Idle 
screen and the use of the side keys to navigate through menus on 5th Edition, 
are only supported after the phone has been rebooted once after installing or 
re-enabling TALKS.
6. Full compatibility list
6.1. Current models
This section lists compatible handsets running on Series 60 3rd Edition Feature 
Pack 2, Series 60 5th Edition and Symbian^3, many of which are available at 
least in some markets. Devices marked with [*] currently do not support ZOOMS 
screen magnification.


• Keyboard phones:
o Nokia 5320 XpressMusic
o Nokia 5630 XpressMusic
o Nokia 6700 slide (but not 6700 classic!) o Nokia 6210 Navigator o Nokia 6220 
Classic o Nokia 6650 fold o Nokia 6710 Navigator o Nokia 6720 classic o Nokia 
6730 classic o Nokia 6790 Surge / slide o Nokia C5-00 o Nokia C5-00 5MP o Nokia 
E5-00 o Nokia E52 o Nokia E66 o Nokia E71 o Nokia E71x o Nokia E72 o Nokia E73 
o Nokia E75 o Nokia N78 o Nokia N79 o Nokia N85 o Nokia N86 o Nokia N96 o Nokia 
X5-01 • Touch screen phones:
o Nokia 700 (new)
o Nokia 701 (new)
o Nokia 5230 Xpress Music
o Nokia 5800 Xpress Music
o Nokia C5-03
o Nokia C6-00
o Nokia C6-01
o Nokia C7-00
o Nokia E6-00
o Nokia E7-00
o Nokia N8-00
o Nokia N97
o Nokia N97mini
o Nokia X6
• Untested, but expected to work:
o Nokia 500 (new)
o Nokia 5228 Xpress Music
o Nokia 5235 Xpress Music
o Nokia 5530 Xpress Music
o Nokia 5730 Xpress Music
o Nokia X7-00

6.2. Earlier models (3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 and older) This section lists 
handsets running earlier versions of Series 60 3rd Edition which can still be 
upgraded to run TALKS 5.00. However, they are typically no longer available in 
most regions except as second-hand and refurbished devices.

• Nokia 3250
• Nokia 5500
• Nokia 5700
• Nokia 6110 Navigator
• Nokia 6120C
• Nokia 6121C
• Nokia 6124 Classic
• Nokia 6290
• Nokia E50
• Nokia E51
• Nokia E60
• Nokia E61
• Nokia E61i
• Nokia E62
• Nokia E63
• Nokia E65
• Nokia E70
• Nokia E90
• Nokia N71
• Nokia N72
• Nokia N73
• Nokia N75
• Nokia N76
• Nokia N80
• Nokia N81/ N81 8GB
• Nokia N82
• Nokia N91
• Nokia N95 / N95 8GB


Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible 
phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com

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Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible 
phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com

URL: - www.talknav.com
e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
Phone: - +44  844 999 4199



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