but however, if you are comfortably using the N97, i think the upgrade model for you should be E7. E7 using slide out qwerty keyboard simmelar to the N97, but it has a newer type of LCD, it should be easier for you to switch over. more important is, talks 5.20 is working quite fine with it.
-- Allan (WKF) "Life is impermanent, happiness is not a necessity, a person must cherish the people around them." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorbu...@btinternet.com> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 22:04 Subject: Re: [Talks] some helpful notes for N8 and talks user That means that M 8 easier to use for blind, is that correct? Incidentally mine is M 97 Mini. -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] some helpful notes for N8 and talks user From: "Allan" <em...@nextg.my> Date: 27/04/2011 2:59 pm no, N8 is uses a different touch technology compare to N97. N8 is using capacitive whereas N97 is using resistive. HTH -- Allan (WKF) "Life is impermanent, happiness is not a necessity, a person must cherish the people around them." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorbu...@btinternet.com> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 21:47 Subject: Re: [Talks] some helpful notes for N8 and talks user Thanks Alan. My mistake is due to me not being able to hear the distinction on my phone with Talks between n and M. I have to listen very hard when using numeric keypad. I take on board what you say but you have not said if the technology for touch screen is the same for N 8 and N 97 Mini. -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] some helpful notes for N8 and talks user From: "Allan" <em...@nextg.my> Date: 27/04/2011 2:32 pm hi Eleanor, some correction, it is N97, not M97. <smile> ok, to answer to your question, technically, there are 2 different type of LCD for mobile phone, 1 the older is call resistive LCD and the much newer is call capacitive. the resistive touchscreen is not sensitive to finger touch, it must use stilus, where the use of stilus is difficult for us. take note that i never say that it cannot be touch, just that you need more energy to press the screen. unlike the resistive touchscreen, the capacitive touchscreen is much sensitive to finger touch and it is more easy for us to use. just lite touch on the capacitive screen, the phone will capture the movement, you dont need to press hard on the screen. HTH. -- Allan (WKF) "Life is impermanent, happiness is not a necessity, a person must cherish the people around them." -- Allan (WKF) "Life is impermanent, happiness is not a necessity, a person must cherish the people around them." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorbu...@btinternet.com> To: "Talks Mailing List" <talks@talksusers.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 21:07 Subject: Re: [Talks] some helpful notes for N8 and talks user Alan I wish to clarify the following with you. I have M 97 Mini but I cannot use the touch screen completely. I use my vision which means I cannot use the touch screen in sunlight. Now I have N 8 and would like to use it but if I will have similar problems I will not use it. From your e-mail below I think you are saying that the technology for M 97 Mini is different from M 8? Is this correct? Many thanks. Eleanor -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] some helpful notes for N8 and talks user From: "Allan" <em...@nextg.my> Date: 27/04/2011 1:40 pm you wrote: > 1. I went into Music player and started playing songs I'd cut and pasted onto > my phone. However, I couldn't stop them playing. > Any tips on this. very very unfortunate for us talks user that this problem have no solution for this time. the first reason is while the music playing, talks nonstop talking, making us difficult to navigate the screen. secondly, talks does not read those buttons appear on the screen, so making it more difficult. what you can do is, use the method call "try touch in error". actually those buttons is on the screen, just try to touch it and see what is the result. those buttons is located near the bottom of the screen, it is above key1 and key2. > 2. What are the latest Nokia phones either with touch screens and pull out > querty keyboards or, buttons. the latest in the market of course is the E7 which have the slide out qwerty keyboard and touchscreen. i personally dont recommend C6-00, N97 or N97 mini which have the simmelar design to E7. the different is on the touchscreen technoligy, E7 is much sensitive to finger touch because it uses capacitive LCD whereas C6-00, N97 and N97 mini uses resistive LCD. -- Allan (WKF) "Life is impermanent, happiness is not a necessity, a person must cherish the people around them." -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Allan Sent: 26 April 2011 18:56 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: [Talks] some helpful notes for N8 and talks user Importance: High note: this post may be not dedicate for all members, but hopefully can be useful to those that need it. secondly, sorry for my english as it is not my native. 1. turn off conversations view in messaging. this step will ensure messages will be view as like older nokia phones in the inbox, the default is set to conversations which is look alike the nokia browser. to set to inbox, go to "messaging -> options -> message view -> inbox." 2. set new alarm clock. talks 5.20 does not work correctly in edit field such as in the alarm clock. but however, talks user still can set alarm clock by themselves with the following steps. tap on the clock at the top left of the homescreen and the alarm clock screen will open, press on new alarm and now you can change the time/discriptions/repeat, downarrow to the discriptions field and bring up the virtual keyboard. so, to change the time, while the virtual keyboard is open, uparrow back to the time field and key-in the desire time. note, while at the time field, talks does not announce the button on the virtual keyboard when you touch it, so you need to be more creative. 3. the 2nd and the 3rd page of the homescreen for the N8 is useless for talks 5.20 user, therefore you can just remove it. dont worry, you can add the screen back on at the later time. 4. be-careful when handling the phone, as it has 3 method to unlock the screen and keys. the first method is of course using the unlock slider located at the right side of the phone. the second method is, press the power button once and tap the bottom center once and the screen and keys will be unlock. the third method is, press the menu key twice and tap the bottom center once and the screen and keys will be unlock. the bottom center as i am refering is when you slide your finger, talks will announce "middle", the same button also to change from page one to page two to page three of the homescreen. 5. there are times that talks make your phone hang, or maybe some apps making your phone unpleasant, and the wirst thing is you cant remove the battery, what you can do?. dont worry, you can have a soft reboot design special for N8 and E7. to do so, if your phone hang, press and hold down the power button about 8 seconds or until you feel 3 vibrates, and let go your finger. after the 3 vibrates, the phone is completely turn off, so just switch on again your phone as usual. 6. if you dont have unlimited data package with your cariour, you must be-careful when using N8, as it may eat up your credits very fast. however, there's a setting you can turn off before you insert your sim card into the phone. go to "menu -> settings -> connectivity -> settings -> data use in home country." you can choose between automatic/home network only/always ask/WLAN only. so, the best of course is always ask or WLAN only, this way the phone will not connect to the internet without your knowledge. 7. for talks 5.20, 2 new editional keystrokes added for N8/E7/C7/C6-01 phone, talks+power to call someone or answer calls. this keystroke can be useful in the following situations, in the contacts book, in a sms message or in the call log. the second keystroke is talks+longPower to put down a call. 8. for talks user, to switch between tabs, longpress uparrow, select the tab using up/downarrow and finally, longpress downarrow to select the tab and switch to the tab selected. 9. for talks user, you can switch profile or edit the current profile by tapping an icon at the homescreen below the date which talks cannot see it completely. the icon is at the bottom of the date and towards the right side of the phone. or alternatively you can use the power button, but the power button method did not allow to edit the current profile, it is only switching profiles. 10. the mail application in N8 is useable with talks. if someone need more details about it, i may have to write in another post, as it is quite long. 11. i also have found the method of editing the homescreen without a sighted help, but it is too complicated to describe or maybe i should fine a time to write it properly or even by the time, newer version of talks has fix it. i think this is what i can think off right now. if anyone need to ask more about N8 with talks, kindly reply to this post. i hope the mods allow it. -- Allan (WKF) "Life is impermanent, happiness is not a necessity, a person must cherish the people around them." _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ________________________________ No virus found in this message. 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