Hi Bhavesh Ok thanks for this, it is useful to know. I can't seem to get it to work in any case even though I have downloaded the software to my phone.
Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of bhavesh Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:56 PM To: talks@talksusers.com Subject: Re: [Talks] Up-dating my nokia c5 hi, i'll not encourage you to upgrade your c5's firmware, cause i've gone thrue a very bad experience. not once, but twise. once you upgrade firmware, it will affect your phone's sound quality, and thus talks's voice will become lesser. regards, bhavesh. On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:56:34 +0530 wrote >Hi I have downloaded the software up-date on to my phone but I can't work out how to install it if I can. Someone told me before I purchased the phone that because I am in France and because I have purchased a phone sold in the UK I will never be able to up-grade the firmware, I don't know how true this is. Please put me right. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:30 AM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error Steven: I downloaded the zip file from blindsea.com. I installed the latest version of Talks on my N86 on Saturday. This evening, I installed the new version of Daisy 2 Go, replacing the old version of the software. Luckily for me, I had no problems with the installation process and the new version of Daisy 2 Go and Talks are now installed on my phone. HTH sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Giggar" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error Just wondering did you remove the old D2GO file first and then try installing the new one? That is the only thing I can think of being I didn't have D2GO on my N95 first. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Carlson" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error Steven, Same problem as Eleanor and with a N95. I used the file in the Blindsee zip package. However I had already installed Talks 5.20 from the earlier posted ftp site. Is there any possibility that the signing needs to be the same to make Daisy2Go work? Does it need to be installed to the Talks package that it came with? Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Giggar" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 13:42 Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error Try downloading the ZIP file from the blind sea web site and it should have the latest files for Talks and maybe that D2Go file will work. At least it worked on my N95. Remember the Talks zip is under the Mobile Screen reader link. www.blindsea.com Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Thompson" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: [Talks] D2Go certificate error Ok. I've tried to install D2Go on every phone I have which are phones from 9.1 through version 5. It doesn't work. It just says cert error, contact the application creator or something to that effect. If anyone gets it to install please reveal your secret. Denise At 09:19 AM 2/17/2011, you wrote: >Dear All, > >TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest build of Nuance >Talks, offering a wide range of new support for both OVI Maps and newer >Symbian ^3 devices. > >For the full release notes please read below. > >You can immediately download the latest version of Talks from the TalkNav >web-site, and for those of you needing an update to your license, we can >provide these 24 hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation. > >enjoy... > >Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20 >Release Notification > >1. Introduction > >We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - Nuance >TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th >Edition for February 17, 2011. > > >This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance TALKS. Screen >magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported on Symbian^3 in this >release. > > >For Users with a Premium license this version also contains the new >Daisy2go 2.01 minor update. > > >This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer as the >previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, respectively). The TTS installation file >for Eloquence US English has been updated to extend the user dictionary. > > >Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated >after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition). >In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is >currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring a new license. > >2. The new handsets > >2.1. Changes to the list of supported phone models > >The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 "Known >Issues" about some limitations): > > >Nokia C6-00 >Nokia C7-00 >Nokia E5-00 >Nokia N8-00 > >We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. However >we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this: > > >Nokia C5-03 >Nokia C6-01 >Nokia E7-00 > >See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version. > >3. What's New? > >This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 compared to the >previous version (5.01). > >3.1. Support for Symbian^3 > >Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports the new >Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some of its most recent >smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and the C7-00. Support for the >just-released E7-00 is likely, but has not yet been confirmed. > > >Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner to the approach >used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by relying on a combination of >list navigation using the side keys of the phone together with the ability >to "explore" the screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be started by holding >the finger on one position for about half a second, and then moving around. >Lifting and tapping again anywhere on the screen will click on the most >recently "explored" position. > > >As usual, some features, such as side key navigation, are only available >once the phone has been powered off and back on after installing or >re-enabling TALKS. > > >As a special feature for Symbian^3 phones which do not include physical >[Call] and [Exit] keys, such as the N8-00, two new TALKS shortcuts have >been introduced to still be able to perform these important functions >quickly: > > >[Talks],[Power] simulates the [Call] key, e.g. to accept an incoming call >or to open the list of most recently dialled calls. >[Talks],[long Power] simulates the [Exit] key, to hang up or reject a call. >Note that the call is only hung up after the [Power] key is released, >unlike with most other "long" TALKS commands. > >A few remarks on specific areas with limited accessibility on Symbian^3 >phones: > >. Symbian^3: screen magnification using ZOOMS and Automation are >not yet supported. > >. Some Symbian^3-specific gestures, such as pinch-to-zoom and >long-tapping a menu item to open its context menu are not available while >TALKS is running. Anyway, in the case of context menus it is generally >possible to access the same functions by navigating to the menu item using >the side keys, and then opening the Options menu. > >. It is not yet possible for TALKS to speak while a phone call is >in progress. Speech is however available when an incoming call is ringing, >and the ringtone has been muted by pressing [Key 2]. Please note that >TALKS does not yet announce the number or name of the caller in this case. >It is therefore recommended to use the "Say caller's name" option in the >current profile to get this information instead. > >. The new Conversations view in Messaging, which lists all the >incoming and outgoing messages for a particular contact, is not fully >supported in this version. This view also opens by default when reacting to >an incoming message from the pop-up dialog in the home screen, so it is >recommended to go to the Options menu in the Messaging application, and to >change the Message View setting from Conversations to Inbox. The >Conversation view uses an embedded browser, so it can be made partially >accessible using the new feature described in section 3.3 (see below). > >. Selecting a bookmark in the web browser is only possible by >exploring the screen and tapping onto the list item, not by pressing [long >Vol Down] on the list item. > >3.2. Support for Ovi Maps > >This version of TALKS introduces support for the Ovi Maps 3 application >that is either built-in or available as a download for most devices from >Series 60 3rd Edition FP1 onwards. Initial support has been optimized for >Ovi Maps 3.03 and 3.04 on keyboard-phones, though earlier and later >versions (as found, for example on Symbian^3) can be used successfully as >well. > > >Generally, important information and focus details are read as usual on >most screens. A few specific details are worth mentioning: > > >On the "My Position" screen, TALKS reads the address of the current >position by default. Pressing [Talks],[long Key 2] for additional >information also reads the city/region. >While following a route on the "Drive" and "Walk" screens, TALKS will read >the street and distance to the next turn by default, and give additional >information (e.g. current position, distance to destination etc.) when >pressing [Talks],[long Key 2]. >While following a route in "driving" mode, it is possible to preview the >next turns by pressing [Up] several times. This will read the street names >and distances to travel for each of the turns. This feature is not >available in "walking" mode. >While following a route, the standard keyboard commands of Ovi Maps are >available, such as [4] to repeat reading of the last instruction and [2] to >save the current position as a favourite. >Additional services, such as "Weather", "Events" or "More" in the main menu >are not yet accessible. >The contents of the "About" screen (under Options > Support) are currently >not read. > >Please note that on touch phones, some default read-outs may not be >optimal, but all information is still accessible by "exploring" the screen. > >3.3. Access to embedded browser views (e.g. Help screens) > >An increasing number of applications are using an embedded version of web >browser to display content that does not directly come from a web page. >Examples are the display of Help pages in many applications on 3rd Edition >FP2 and later phones, contents of e-mail messages in HTML format and the >Conversations view on Symbian^3 phones. > > >On touch phones, these screens can be recognized by the fact that the >virtual keyboard for the browser is displayed, but that navigating the page >beyond the page title is not possible. Also, the announcement of the number >of links (or "Page has no links") is missing. > > >Version 5.20 offers a method to make the textual content (though not the >links) in some of these pages accessible upon request: when such a page is >shown on the screen, simply press [Talks],[Down] to read the page contents. >If necessary, this will first try to convert the page text into a readable >format, and then start reading it. > > >In some cases, it may be necessary to press the key a second time to >commence reading. Also, this method does yet work in all applications. > >3.4. Various changes > >This section lists further changes to TALKS that were made in this update: > > >Application support: > > >Focus in Nokia Internet Radio is now recognized. >Lists in N97 web radio are now read. >Made several improvements to accessibility of Java apps (e.g. automatic >reading of non-editable text fields and of some types of input controls). >New e-mail application on C6-00 is now supported. >Reduced verbosity of Calendar app on newer phones (e.g. E52), and improved >reliability of focus reading in some views. > >Touch screen improvements: > > >When exploring, objects that consist of nothing but an unlabeled graphic >are spoken as "Icon". >Icon for closing full screen in lower right corner of touch browser is now >read (as a soft key). >Holding [Camera] key while exploring screen forces explore mode, and >prevents accidental clicking. >[Talks],[long Vol Down] to switch between navigation and volume control now >takes effect immediately, and works in applications where it failed >previously, such as Daisy2go. >Fixed incorrect cycling on [long Vol Up] from softkeys back to focus on >screens with Text object (e.g. Notes or New Message). > >Daisy2go improvements: > > >Fixed some cases where a few seconds were cut off at the end of an audio >file. >Changed tab width in Settings so all three tabs are accessible by touch. > >Bug fixes: > > >Fixed out-of-memory messages after opening and closing a large number of >applications or messages. >Fixed reading of Symbol table with new E52/E72 firmware 051.x. >Fixed text entry in browser on phones with new web browser 7.2, and on >N97mini. >Added missing punctuation reading for some common Unicode dash characters, >and introduced short pauses when reading forced line breaks. >Fixed some cases where order of punctuation and right-to-left text is >incorrect, or where right-to-left text was read in the wrong order. >Fixed problems with finding user dictionaries and app settings on drive F, >especially after moving TALKS installation to a different drive. >4. Known Issues with specific handsets and apps > >. Touch phones: currently, there are some limitations to the use of >the on-screen keyboard for text entry. In particular, the menus for >switching to other keyboard layouts and for picking suggestions from the T9 >dictionary are not fully accessible. Switching to other keyboard layouts is >not recommended, as some of them (e.g. mini-Qwerty or handwriting) are not >yet supported by TALKS, and can be difficult to exit. > >. Touch phones: the symbol table in the virtual keyboard is >currently not accessible. On 5th Edition phones only (but not on Symbian^3) >opening the symbol table in the on-screen keyboard can lead to the keyboard >stopping to take input until you press [Exit] to go to the main menu, and >then return to the application where you were entering text. > >. Touch phones: text entry into an object announced as "Fields" >(e.g. a date or a time) is not supported well by this version of TALKS, as >the virtual keyboard cannot be used with speech. This limits the use of the >Calendar and Clock applications that rely on these types of objects for >date and time input. > >. On some phones, holding the [Camera] key does not launch the >Camera application while this version of TALKS is active. The camera can >still be opened through the phone's menu, or assigned to a softkey on the >home screen. > >. Internet radio on 3rd Edition phones: long list items start >scrolling horizontally when they become focused, so TALKS will repeat their >contents partially a few times until they stop moving. Also, some details >on the "Now playing" screen are not read by default, though they are >available through the Object Viewer (a feature only available in TALKS >Premium). > >. N97: training mode will read the digits, rather than the letters, >for the keys in the top row of the QWERTY keyboard. > >. Some keyboard functions, such as [Talks],[digit] shortcuts on the >Idle screen and the use of the side keys to navigate through menus on 5th >Edition, are only supported after the phone has been rebooted once after >installing or re-enabling TALKS. > >. E55: [Talks],[digit] shortcuts have been reported to not work >properly on this phone, most likely as a result of the unusual keyboard >layout. > >. 3rd Edition (FP1 and FP2): the "Search" application is not >supported. > >. 3rd Edition FP2: You will notice a slow response of voice >recognition "beep" after holding [Key 2] when TALKS is not muted > >. E75: When using ZOOMS, moving around the screen by holding down >the cursor keys is currently not possible. The magnified portion of the >screen always follows the current focus position. > >. N96: "Photos" application (and "Photos" submenu of "Gallery") is >not supported. > >. N96: Daisy2Go does not support firmware versions prior to 20.x of >this phone. > >5. FAQ > >Q: Your software does not install on my E-Series handset or branded device, >and reports a Certificate Error! Why? >A: While TALKS&ZOOMS for Symbian itself is certified, and thus can be >installed on any supported handset, the installers for the TTS engines >(Eloquence or Vocalizer for Mobile) are not signed. E-Series handsets and >some branded devices only accept the installation of signed software, >unless you turn of the corresponding option inside the Application Manager: > >. Open the phone menu. > >. Open the App. Manager inside the Tools folder > >. Press "Options", then select "Settings". > >. Set "Software Installation" from "Signed only" to "All". > >. Press "Back" to close the Settings dialogue, then "Exit" to close >the App. Manager. > >. Now, you can install the TTS engine. > >Another reason could be that the date on your phone is not set correctly - >as Symbian apps need to be digitally signed, SIS files can only be >installed if the phone is set to a valid date. > > >Q: Can I install the new release of TALKS&ZOOMS, while a previous release >is active? > >A: Yes, if the new version is installed to the same memory location as the >previous release. If you would like to change the memory location, you have >to remove the previous release first! > > >Q: Why do I get an "Upgrade error" when installing the S60 3rd/5th Edition >version? > >A: The most likely reasons are that you have used a beta release, or >already have the Nokia TTS driver available that was installed as a >separate file with version 3.10. Please remove any beta version, as well as >the Nokia TTS driver or the Nuance Speech2Go Reader application, before >upgrading to TALKS 5.20. > > >Q: Why do I get an "Invalid serial number" error when trying to activate a >demo version of TALKS, even though I have entered the code correctly and >never used TALKS on this phone before? > >A: The most likely reason is that TALKS thinks the demo has already >"expired" because the date on the phone is set incorrectly, usually to some >date in the future. > >6. Full compatibility list > >6.1. Current models > >This section lists compatible handsets running on Series 60 3rd Edition >Feature Pack 2, Series 60 5th Edition and Symbian^3, many of which are >available at least in some markets: > > >Keyboard phones: >Nokia 5320 XpressMusic >Nokia 5630 XpressMusic >Nokia 6700 slide (but not 6700 classic!) >Nokia 6210 Navigator >Nokia 6220 Classic >Nokia 6650 fold >Nokia 6710 Navigator >Nokia 6720 classic >Nokia 6730 classic >Nokia 6790 Surge / slide >Nokia C5-00 >Nokia E5-00 >Nokia E52 >Nokia E66 >Nokia E71 >Nokia E71x >Nokia E72 >Nokia E73 >Nokia E75 >Nokia N78 >Nokia N79 >Nokia N85 >Nokia N86 >Nokia N96 >Touch screen phones: >Nokia 5800 XpressMusic >Nokia C6-00 >Nokia C7-00 >Nokia N8-00 >Nokia N97 >Nokia N97mini >Nokia X6 >Untested, but expected to work: >Nokia 5228 Xpress Music >Nokia 5230 Xpress Music >Nokia 5235 Xpress Music >Nokia 5530 Xpress Music >Nokia 5730 Xpress Music >Nokia C5-03 >Nokia C6-01 >Nokia E7-00 >Nokia X5-01 > >6.2. Earlier models (3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 and older) > >This section lists handsets running earlier versions of Series 60 3rd >Edition which can still be upgraded to run TALKS 5.00. However, they are >typically no longer available in most regions except as second-hand and >refurbished devices. > > >Nokia 3250 >Nokia 5500 >Nokia 5700 >Nokia 6110 Navigator >Nokia 6120C >Nokia 6121C >Nokia 6124 Classic >Nokia 6290 >Nokia E50 >Nokia E51 >Nokia E60 >Nokia E61 >Nokia E61i >Nokia E62 >Nokia E63 >Nokia E65 >Nokia E70 >Nokia E90 >Nokia N71 >Nokia N72 >Nokia N73 >Nokia N75 >Nokia N76 >Nokia N80 >Nokia N81/ N81 8GB >Nokia N82 >Nokia N91 >Nokia N95 / N95 8GB > > >Regards, > >Neil Barnfather >Talks List Administrator > >Twitter @NeilBarnfather > >TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > >URL: - www.talknav.com >e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > >_______________________________________________ >Talks mailing list >Talks@talksusers.com >http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >and >Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
