ok I had never tried updating with out a sim card before thanks.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Giggar" <sgig...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] e72 updated.


Bernard

You have always had to put a sim card in the phone before you can update. This doesn't mean it has to be a active card, just one had to be in it. This has been the case every since the Nokia Software udpater has been out. You never have been able to update the firmware without a sim card in the phone. On the older phones you had to re-install Talks but on the newer phone it will retain the data. However you should always do a backup before updating any software.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard Hemmings" <li...@bhemmings.net>
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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] e72 updated.


As it works on my laptop I will use that. My desktop has 10 built in usb ports so they would be on a built in hub. My IBM think pad has only 2 usb ports unless I use the expander. As I updated 2 phones yesterday using the laptop with no problems I will use the laptop. I will ask the desktop pc supplier if there are any usb ports that are not on a hub as the updater warns about usb hubs. Oh and by the way you have to have the sim card present to update phones now. As I have a new spare e72 I updated it as well. I did not put the sim in and after a few seconds I heard a dialogue come up which said please insert sim card and the choices were try again or cancel.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kit" <goldeneagl...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] e72 updated.


Bernard,

When you performing such important operation, try not to use to many USB hub or connection. In fact, for me, I will usually remove all other USB cables connected and only leave the one for the phone running and connected.

----- Original Message ----- From: Bernard Hemmings
To: talks
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:46 PM
Subject: [Talks] e72 updated.


As in the past I have had trouble updating phones with my desktop I used the laptop and all went perfectly. I tried with bluetooth first but the updater does not see the device when I cabled it updated perfectly. The software has a date of august 5 but was only released today. If I find any new features I'll let you know. What was interesting during the update the updater installs a temporary peace of hardware to keep the phone and pc connected. This install did not happen on the desktop. I'm thinking that as the desktop has 10 usb ports it probably has a usb hub which does not work properly with the updater. At least now I don't have to stress out now when the phone needs updating .

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