Hi, On 6/9/20 02:53, [email protected] wrote: > Basically, can you please explain why do you think you should be able to > influence decisions of the iD maintainer without forking the code, > maintaining it yourself and in the end competing with iD on a level > playing field.
I think that we (the OSMF) give the independent iD project a huge platform by making it the default editor that people are sent to when they click "Edit" on our web page. (Would anyone go to a web site called "ideditor.com" to edit OSM?) It is obvious that this comes with responsibilities. To pick an extreme example just for the sake of argument, if iD were to display an advertising banner to generate revenue, or transmit the activities of OSM mappers to another web site for harvesting, that would force us to drop iD from our web page immediately, and with that, the iD project or at least the part that deals with OSM would vanish into oblivion. So there is a contract here: The iD team makes a good editor, and the OSMF defines the decision making envelope for the iD team - some things they can just do to their liking because they don't affect the "iD is the official OSM(F) default editor" status, but other decisions they might want to make are outside this envelope and OSM needs to be given a say. That is not meddling with their affairs or "crippling down a good tool", it is just a necessary sharing of responsibilities. > The success of iD > is a proof their vision for the tool development and its feature set are > working very well (perhaps too well, which is why we are having this > discussion). We are having this discussion because the assumption that if someone is a good programmer they will also be good with gauging the will of the OSM community has proven wrong; iD is a good editor but the iD team has too often treated the community with contempt (to the point of openly violating the code of conduct that the iD team had given themselves) and ignored valid concerns. The relationship hence cannot continue on trust alone. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [email protected] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

