hello here,

I wish to get some sort of support in a decision regarding data which I find hard to verify, and actually also hard to believe.

years ago ArielRod completed this changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/17323627

I have asked about the source, and got no reply.

the above is not an isolated changeset, for there are at the moment 995 place=* on ArielRod's name in the "Comarca Ngäbe Buglé", and 342 in Chiriquí.  these are the points added by this user, and not edited by others.  but there are more, where people have edited them downgrading place to isolated_dwelling, just in doubt instead of deletion, I suppose.

the alleged source is the census for the year 2010, but the corresponding document, as far as I managed to search (https://inec.gob.pa/archivos/P3551P3551cuadro3.xls) does not contain coordinates.

I have zoomed into quite a few of these points marked as place=hamlet, and in most cases I do not see anything that could justify the presence of a `isolated_dwelling`.  in some cases, there is something, but is it sheer chance?  could well be.

one example for all, Node: Bulite (2416914927), marked as hamlet, supposedly 5 houses according to the census.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2416914927#map=17/8.54709/-81.76901&layers=D

around this node, at less than 1.0km, there's 18 more place=hamlet, by the same user.

in the same area, I do see a few buildings (I haven't mapped any), but not near the place=* nodes.

of these 19 nodes, only 8 are actually mentioned, verbatim, in the 2010 census.  but still, whether they have been thrown at a random location, or placed here for any other reason, that's obscure to me.

so far the situation.

I would like to do some cleaning up, and am considering deleting all such nodes added by this user, either edited by others, or not.  I have commented so much in the Panama Telegram Group, where a few local editors are active, asking for their opinion.  none has been expressed so far.  I would not want to act without some support.

I could also leave it as it is.  after all, why should I care?

comments will be very welcome,

best regards, Mario Frasca


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