On 17/02/2020 12:21, Mario Frasca wrote:
[…] I'm not just complaining for the sake of it, I'm looking for opportunities.

you see, we are in 2020, and people still do not know OSM even exists.  just count them: we have 1.35 billion people walking with a handheld device, most of which with a GPS, and only 10 thousand installations of OSM Tracker for Android.  […]

I was pointed to a web site for sharing GPS traces, mostly for trekking and hiking, on foot or by bike, it's called wikiloc (.com).  it uses OSM as base map (or Apple map), gives all possible and desirable attribution, and has many more traces to offer to globe-trotters than we have on OSM.

so there's this curious situation: via wikiloc.com you look for suggested walks, and you don't see the path in the map, since we mapping for OSM do not see the wikiloc traces, so we can't use them to vectorialize the available aerial pictures.  my current practice is to browse their traces, using their site as a set of hints for where to map, we have Bing after all!

but is there anybody here reading, from the OSMF, who could write to them, and suggest some correction to the current situation? like: you upload a trace to wikiloc, and apart from all current agreements between hiker providing the trace and wikiloc, there would be an extra clause: your points are exported to osm, maybe under a generic wikiloc user, and marked private, or the wikiloc user coupling their accounts, and deciding in their preferences which visibility for their traces.

to have a concrete example, take the Yeguada, north of Calobre, in Veraguas, Panamá.  OSM has not a single GPS point recorded there, while wikiloc has several traces, along roads that aren't in OSM.

https://www.wikiloc.com/mountain-biking-trails/calobre-la-yeguada-29495788

use the above link to reach the area.  the whole area is in this situation: unmapped, no GPS points available to mappers, quite a few well documented GPS traces in wikiloc.

just wondering, is there anything we can do?

MF


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