For info only (mainly for me!): original DWG reference number is Ticket# 2024022510000056
Thanks Graeme On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 at 20:38, Phil Wyatt <p...@wyatt-family.com> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > > > Well at least that user name may provide some detail on who the actual > company is behind the edits > > > > https://www.novasystems.com/au/what-we-do/global-alerting-platform#gap > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/harsimranjit-kaur-253a00196/?originalSubdomain=au > > > > If they continue to make incorrect edits (after changeset comments > mentioning the errors) then I suggest another word to DWG > > > > Cheers - Phil > > > > > > > > *From:* Mark Pulley <mark.pull...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, 23 January 2025 8:38 PM > *To:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* OpenStreetMap-AU Mailing List <talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM > > > > I’m just following up on this. I haven’t seen the promised Wiki page > regarding these edits. > > > > Harsimranjit Kaur’s last edit was 17 June 2024. Another user started doing > similar edits starting on 8 July 2024. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nova%20Systems%20GAP > > (Or is it the same user with a new account?) > > > > I’ve found one problematic edit from this user - > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/160414255 > > Msxspeed through Nimmitabel had been updated in 2021 following an official > change of max speed from 60 to 50. > > Maxspeed was still 50 when I travelled through Nimmitabel in Nov 2024. (I > had deleted my voice recording file after doing these edits, but found the > voice recording in a Time Machine backup to confirm this was correct.) > > Maxspeed was changed to 60 by this user. (I’ve reverted this change > tonight.) > > Sources for other changes by this user was "based on NSW Speed Data”, no > source was given for this change, and the user has not responded to my > query. I looked at the NSW Speed Data site, and it has maxspeed=50. > > > > I haven’t checked the other edits (now up to 149 changesets) > > > > I’ve had a look at the NSW Speed Zone interactive map, and have noticed a > few incorrect speed zones in places. > > > Mark P. > > > > On 6 Mar 2024, at 8:52 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > They responded a few days ago but, as we're travelling atm, I didn't have > a chance to do anything about it. > > > > Their response: > > > > "We sincerely appreciate your efforts in bringing to our attention the > organised edits rules and guidelines, of which we were previously unaware. > We acknowledge the necessity to adhere to these guidelines and commit to > creating a wiki page for our organised edits accordingly. However, we > kindly request some time to complete this task. > > > > Regarding our compliance with other editing rules, we are confident that > we are fully adhering to them. It's important to note that our system > utilises tools that rely on OpenStreetMap data. Upon discovering numerous > discrepancies in the NSW speed zone data within OpenStreetMap, we initiated > edits to rectify these inconsistencies. > > > > Our editing process follows a detailed verification procedure, outlined as > follows: > > > > 1. A driver reports a speed discrepancy on a specific road. > 2. The driver report undergoes thorough verification and is escalated > for further examination. > > > 3. We utilise NSW Speed Data ( > https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/speed-zones) to verify > the reported speed limit. > > > 4. If the claimed speed limit aligns with the NSW Speed Data, we > proceed to update it in OpenStreetMap. > 5. Conversely, if the reported speed limit does not match the NSW > Speed Data, we reject the claim. However, if multiple drivers report the > same speed limit discrepancy over time, we request evidence from the > drivers, often resulting in the provision of images depicting posted speed > limit signs. Based on this evidence, we update the speed limits in > OpenStreetMap accordingly. > > > > We are eager to address any discrepancies that other mappers may have > reported concerning the edits we have made. Could they kindly provide us > with evidence to facilitate a detailed investigation? This will enable us > to reassess and update our map editing processes as necessary. > > > > Our primary objective in making these edits is to enhance the experience > of our drivers and community. Therefore, we welcome any suggestions or > further discussion that would contribute to ensuring the accuracy of our > edits." > > > > Don't know if that answers the questions you have? > > > > I've suggested that they set up an account here to talk about what they > are doing. > > > > Thanks > > > > Graeme > > >
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