We will be forced to resolve the ambiguity. Take any business that has a drive-through access and a foot access.
On Mon, 4 Aug 2025, 08:57 Warin, <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3/8/25 13:35, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I don't think access=yes is the same as access=public. > The key 'access' is too generic. Does access=yes refer to the means of > transport that I can use to enter the library? For example it could mean > that I can enter on wheelchair or bicycle. Does not sound right to me. > > My take: > > Where the access key is used on a transport object such as a highway, a > railway then it refers to the mode of transport. Where it is used on an > object that is not a transport object such as a toilet then it refers to > the human access to the object. The OSM wiki is not clear no the topic > being biased to transportation needs. > > If there is a need to specify the mode of transportation to an non > transport object then a transport object can be connected to the non > transport object. Example a footpath going the entry door of a library > could have access=yes, bicycle=dismount while the library could have > access=yes, bicycle=no ... hopefully there is a bicycle parking node > nearby. Wheelchairs use wheelchair=yes/no for access determination. > > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2025, 00:59 Andrew Welch via Tagging, < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Pretty sure conditional can be used for anything, it just won't be >> machine readable if it's not something like opening_hours formatting. >> >> You could do fee=yes and conditional:fee = no @ "members" >> >> I'm sure someone could propose or ATYL something better, but it still >> would work to at least have that information included. >> >> >> On 31/07/2025 8:02 pm, Warin wrote: >> >> > On 31/7/25 18:31, Anne- Karoline Distel via Tagging wrote: >> > >> >> Certain clubs or associations might have a library only accessible to >> >> members or only free for members and general public has to pay a fee. >> >> >> >> -- >> > >> > access=members >> > >> > access:public=fee ??? I was thinking of conditional but that looks >> like >> > it is only for some time limits. >> > >> > On 31/07/2025, 08:49 Warin <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On 31/7/25 12:21, Andrew Heare wrote: >> >> I am proposing a new tagging system to indicate the type of user that >> >> may utilize a library's services. >> >> >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Library_Types >> >> >> > >> > More thoughts... >> > >> > Using access=public is discouraged, use access=yes >> > >> > No real difference between school, universities and college .. the >> > 'users' are students. >> > >> > Looks to me like the access key can be used in all of the suggested >> > library:users proposal. >> > >> > For schools, universities and colleges use >> > >> > Access=students, access=staff;students or access=students;employees >> > >> > For public libraries use access=yes >> > >> > For private libraries use access=private >> > >> > For government and other commercial firms internal libraries use >> > access=employees >> > >> > In all cases the operator and website keys can be used for more detail >> > .. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tagging mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tagging mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing > [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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