Hi,
It is my understanding, from the Wiki at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle, that "bicycles=yes" means that
bicycles are permitted, but says nothing about the ease of riding one there.
It is "bicycles=yes" and not "bicycles=designated" because, for a bridleway
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbridleway"Cyclists also have
a right, unless the local authority makes orders to the contrary.... ...The
local authority is not obliged to ensure suitability for bicycles, unlike for
foot or horse users."#
BTW you can still carry (or push) a bicycle, even where the way is tagged
"bicycle=no". (from the wiki again) "bicycle / no / Where bicycles are not
permitted, ensure this is indicated. Note that carrying or pushing bicycles may
be still accepted".
So, thanks for asking, but I remain happy with "highway=steps"; "bicycle=yes"
Regards,Peter
Peter Neale
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On Monday, 29 April 2024 at 07:35:48 BST, Jens Glad Balchen via Tagging
<tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
Generally speaking, how do we reconcile these two?
bicycle=yes highway=steps
What is a data consumer supposed to infer from this as opposed to just
highway=steps? As long as foot=designated, aren't cyclists always allowed to
get off the bike and push/carry it? And wouldn't they have to when there are
steps?
Jens
On 28/04/2024 21:35, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote:
Hi DaveF,
Acting on advice, I have already split the Bridleway and re-tagged 2 sections
as:
bicycle=yes designation=public_bridleway foot=designated highway=steps
horse=designated incline=down (or up) lit=no surface=paved
The steps can be seen on aerial imagery (a bit fuzzy on Bing, but
particularly clear in the aerial imagery whose name shall not be mentioned in
OSM), plus I remember running through there a few months ago, so I know that
the steps are there. I intend to visit again soon and add more detail (number
of steps, etc.)
Between these is a section of the orignal way, which is now
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1277843368
I hope this helps and that you agree with the tagging.
Regards, Peter
(PeterPan99)
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 at 17:35:58 BST, Dave F via Tagging
<tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
Could you provide the link to the OSM way please?
DaveF
On 28/04/2024 15:19, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote:
Advice, please.
A local Public Bridleway has a few (3, 4 or 5 from Aerial imagery) steps
going down before it passes under a road bridge, and a similar number up again
on the other side.
How can I best tag this? According to the wiki, "highway=steps" seems to be
*an alternative to*, not *a qualification of * "highway=bridleway". I don't
want to mislead consumers by breaking the bridleway, but I don't want cycling
consumers to be unaware of the fact that there are a few steps to descend /
ascend, which may require a dismount.
Regards, Peter
(PeterPan99)
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