Makes me wonder whether decorating Xmas trees goes back to that tradition. Since Martin Luther introduced them who was dead against Paganism, it is doubtful, but maybe he only introduced the tree, and the decorations came later. I'm learning towards "sacred tree" now, there are quite a few trees described as "sacred" in some way or other according to taginfo. Anne Anne -- Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity. On 04/03/2024, 20:43 Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
This reminded me of The Arbor Tree in Aston-on-Clun.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/436200174
It is decorated annually on Oak Apple Day (29th May). It is decorated
with flags these days but it goes a log way back so I assume it was
simpler cloths at one time.
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5642115
Phil (trigpoint)
On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 20:48 +0000, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging
wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> does anyone have any opinions about how to map what is called
> clootie/ cloughtie/ cloutie trees in Scotland and rag trees or
> raggedy bushes in Ireland? I have used place_of_worship=rag_tree (to
> avoid the many different spellings) in combination with natural=tree,
> but there is also a category on Wikimedia called "Prayer trees". But
> for some prayer trees, you stick coins in the bark instead of tying
> rags or ribbons (or other votive offerings) to the branches, so I
> think rag trees should be mapped different to coin ones. They're not
> historic, but still very much in use in Ireland, the UK (by Neo-
> Pagans and Christians alike), and I believe there are other cultures
> like Hinduism who use them.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clootie_well
>
> To my knowledge, "clootie tree" is not used in Ireland at all and
> wasn't in the past either (only in the wikimedia category). In
> Ireland, the tree is also usually not necessarily connected to a
> well. There is one at the Hill of Tara, for example.
>
> If you like fairy tales, I think there is one in Cinderella, at least
> in the Brothers Grimm version. As far as I remember, the dress for
> the ball appeared in the tree.
>
> Anne aka b-unicycling
>
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