Marc_marc <marc_m...@mailo.com> writes:

> so now that we have a documented tag shop=knives,
> how to tag a shop that sell knives and arcs ? shop=knives;arcs ?
> of course not
> when we have found the right term for this shop, the previous case
> could have been handled in the same way with details in a secondary tag

the basic issue, which you seem to be avoiding, is that any actual shop
sells a variety of things.  We don't (can't and shouldn't) enumerate all
of them; OSM is a map, not a precise inventory database.

What we are doing is agreeing on a set of labels for objects which exist
to some significant extent that people using the map will be able to
grasp those objects and use them for either understanding what is
present, analysis queries, or search.

The point here is not that stores selling knives might sell something
else.  It's that there are a large number of stores whose *primary*
point is to sell knives, and naturally the sell other things that people
who are interested in buying knives might also buy, when selling those
additional items is not burdensome.

This is exactly the same as other stores.  Liquor stores for example
sell non-alcoholic beverages often used for consumption at parties, or
mixers.  They will ~never sell milk, because that requires stock
management for expiration and usually a separate license, which is a
different business operations plan.

Similarly a gun store might sell some outdoorsy or self-defense-ish
knives, because it's easy to stock.  A knife store won't sell guns,
because that's a different level of licensing and paperwork, here, and I
suspect most places.

As for stevea@'s comment about gun vs firearm, I disagree.  firearm is
more technical/precise and gun is less formal.  Yes, the law defines all
sorts of things, often in ways that are contrary to English, and in law
things mean what the law/cases say they mean, not what they normally
mean.  Two examples:

  an air rifle is not a firearm, in English, because there is no
  combustion

  In Massachusetts, firearm in law means handgun.  This is just bizarre
  and totally contrary to English usage, but it's how it is.

We certainly shouldn't encode in tags legal definitions that are
contrary to normal usage.  And of coures, an OSM tag means what we say
it means -- but good practice is to choose words so that mostly reading
the tag causes people to jump to the right conclusion.

I do agree with stevea@'s discussion of singular/plural.   It seems
obvious that each shop value should exist in one form or the other.

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