Yes, sounds good to me :+1:
One more interesting case I found is this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10344810
restriction=no_right_turn
restriction:bicycle=give_way
But what is that supposed to mean? There are only two (2) such relations
with restriction and restriction:bicycle=give_way tags. To me it seems
like it would be better to use a separate relation for the give_way tag.
In conclusion maybe what should be stated in the wiki is the following?
* out of all restriction:vehicle[:conditional] tags the most specific
one counts. redundancy should be avoided.
* combining restriction and restriction: is discouraged with the
exception for future proposals where something like
restriction:bicycle=unrestricted could replace the except tag
* give_way and maybe others should not be mixed with the no_<...> and
only_<...> turn restriction tags
On 29.10.22 10:07, Tobias Knerr wrote:
On 29.10.22 07:13 easbar.m...@posteo.net wrote:
I like your idea of not using the except tag but rather something like
restriction:value=unrestricted. Actually that would be the first
useful combination of restriction and restriction:vehicle that I have
heard of. But unfortunately this is neither mentioned in the wiki nor
does it seem to be used that way.
Yes, this is something that would require a proposal to introduce, it's
not established practice at this point. The reason I mention it in this
discussion is indeed that it would be one example where restriction and
restriction:vehicle on the same relation could meaningfully coexist. So
I wonder if a wording could be used that would leave this door open for
the future, e.g. by discouraging "different types of restriction on the
same relation" (or some better wording to the same effect).
I'm still wondering: Do we ever need different restriction values for
different vehicles, or for different conditions, for the same relation?
No, with the exception of the "unrestricted" concept I mentioned, this
should never be necessary. Even if there is an obscure real-world
situation with different restrictions on the same turn (same
from-via-to) for different vehicles, it could be modelled with separate
relations.
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