On Oct 4, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Marc_marc <marc_m...@mailo.com> wrote: > Le 04.10.22 à 14:52, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit : >> I would prefer even more using a different key for both: maybe >> flow=gentle_upward_jet >> flow=downward >> would be better? > > as a not-native, gentle_upward_jet is again a mix several : > gentle (qui est plutot un flow rate) et a flow direction. > > flow=up/down or flow:dorection ? > easy, similar to what we use for other keys (incline)
Marc_marc, when you get into flow=gentle_upward_jet flow=downward (these are such thoughtful tags they have a KINDNESS about them!) now you get into "whether I can fill a water bottle" with them, which adds yet another dimension. I'm not saying these are bad or wrong tags (I like them), but pretty soon, now people might want fill_hydration_bottle=yes (or no), too. >> On 4 Oct 2022, at 14:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging >> <tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: >> See for example image shown at >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fountain%3Ddrinking > > this one is an exception, it’s inside a school (access=private) > OK, lets assume that something with exactly this construction is > constructed in a public location. > > Is it a drinking fountain? Mateusz, I say "very good question" (as to whether this is a drinking fountain), because while it has that "push button tap," it is downward pointing, so "less for drinking by mouth and more for hand-washing or filling a water bottle." Yet, you say it is at a private school, one might assume "smaller people" (children) and so it would be difficult for them to stand under the downward-flow to flow the water past their lips and take a drink. (No need to squat down low, contort one's body and awkwardly turn one's head upside down like in the "green cylinder" tap). Although, in this case, a child would still need to turn their head up (or at least sideways) so the downward-flowing water would quench their thirst. So, this one is a "wobbler," (for me), I'd say it could go either way as to whether it is a drinking fountain. It is definitely amenity=drinking_water, and it is definitely a water_tap, though. I wouldn't call it a "just plain" fountain, as it has a tap and it isn't decorative, it is for drinking. For Fontanella_Bolsena, I say exactly the same things: could go either way. If someone tagged this "drinking fountain," I might shake my head "no," (downward flow), but I would be terribly upset, because it IS drinking WATER and it is a tap. For Key:fountain, I think we are doing well there specifying the various types. The several edits you and Martin have added earlier this year continue to broaden this nicely. For me (again, as an English speaker from the USA who doesn't often see the rich kinds of European fountains here — though I have traveled to Europe several times) the word "fountain" starts out as pretty generic (a device to flow water usually upward, sometimes downward and in a frequently decorative and sometimes useful way), and then explodes into "drinking," and "decorative" and "useful" (like in a fountain=mister at an outdoor café on a hot day to cool off patrons) and even more kinds of fountains. I didn't realize it was this complex, but as I am shown that it is, I nod my head and must agree that all of these other flavors of fountain really are "fountains." > If yes - why > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg > would not be a water fountain? SOME people might call this a "water fountain" and I wouldn't completely disagree (you can fill a water bottle, for example). But I wouldn't call this a "drinking fountain" as the downward flow and the necessity of an adult needing to squat-and-contort doesn't fit my usual understanding of what a "drinking fountain" is. (I repeat myself with this, but that's OK). I sincerely hope all of this helps! _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
