Dear all, Peter wrote Tue Sep 20 2022 14:02:24 GMT+0200
This would mean that there is a new primary tag `highway=scramble` which makes some currently existing primary tags obsolete: 1) `highway=via_ferrata` gets replaced by `highway=scramble + scramble=via_ferrata` 2) `climbing=route` gets replaced by `highway=scramble + scramble=climbing`
1. From previous discussion I got the impression that actual climbing and via ferrata are different from scrambling, i.e. not a type of scramble.
I fully agree that climbing and via ferrata are no subset of scrambling because more difficult climbs/ferratas are going way beyond what a scramble is. But to my understanding, there is definitely a fuzzy overlapping zone in the sense simple climbs and via ferrata are at the same time scrambles. To me, definitions of UIAA climbing grade I are mostly equal to the posted definitions of scrambling grade 1, similar overlaps in higher grades until around UIAA IV. Same for the easiest 1-2 grades of via ferrata (see e.g. https://www.bergfreunde.eu/via-ferrata-grades-calculator/). This is not only in definitions but also in real life, e.g. in the Alps, simple via ferrata are done by many as scramble, i.e. they simply do not use the metal but the rock unless conditions are harsh. Best regards, Georg _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
