19 paź 2020, 22:43 od tagging@openstreetmap.org:
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>
>>>> This recent wiki change by >>>> Emvee
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Emvee>>>>> is in my view not
>>>> helpful, or even misleading, as it does discourage a wide-spread
>>>> tagging practice (if we like this or not is a different
>>>> question, but it's established tagging, and the wiki is supposed
>>>> to describe the establsihed methods of tagging)
>>>>
>>>
>>> The change describes what a router does with bicycle=no on a node,
>>> see >>> https://github.com/abrensch/brouter/issues/265
>>>
>>>
>>> Already discussed elsewhere but having routers ignore bicycle=no
>>> in combination with highway=crossing means that it is more or less
>>> useless as routers are they main data consumers while at the same
>>> time crossing data is far from being complete.
>>>
>>>
>>> My take is that it is not a wide-spread tagging practice and it
>>> does not add new information as weather it is a pedestrian issue
>>> can be deduced from the connecting ways.
>>>
>>>
>> We still have the valid mapping practice, that sideways are mapped with
>> tags at the highway=<street> with no seperately mapped ways.
>> Therefor we still have highway=crossing nodes _without_ a crossing way.
>> Some of these still have no bicycle crossing allowed.
>>
>> How can/should a mapper map this 'new' information now?
>>
>
> Discussed also elsewhere in this thread, but an option is just to
> retrain from adding bicycle=no/dismount as it is problematic for routing
> while it does not add value, for these highway=crossing nodes _without_
> a crossing way routers will not > treat> them different if there is
> bicycle=no/yes/dismount or whatever
>
>
How specific data consumers process
OSM data does not really change
meaning of OSM data.
Especially if it is "that part is currently
not supported"
>
> If in a later stage the crossing way is added, that crossing way will
> have the correct access rights.
>
>
And if mapper wants to map it right now
this tagging is method to do that.
Note that in some regions people
decided to map sidewalks with
sidewalk tag not with separate ways
>
> Like written, I do not see a need but maybe, like elsewhere proposed, a
> new tag should be used instead.
>
>
I also see no need for a new tag :)
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