"why this page resides in the main namespace and not in the responsible proposer's user space?" - it's a wiki, we are generally a libertarian group, there are no restrictions on creating a page other than wanting to be relevant. I personally find it relevant.
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020, 14:47 bkil, <bkil.hu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Could someone perhaps clarify why this page resides in the main > namespace and not in the responsible proposer's user space? > > > Do not name individuals in OpenStreetMap tags, unless their name is on a > business sign posted towards the street, or part of the business name and > available in public records. > > > > What if the name of the operator is printed on each receipt when you > shop there or a certificate is placed on the wall that shows it? We > usually add that to operator=*. > > Indeed I think that the article confuses mapped things that are > worthless and mapped things that are dangerous (according to GDPR). > > For example, the reason why we don't map private washing machines is > that its location and capacity is not information that is in public > interest (hence why it is not a POI). Another reason that it fails the > verifiability criterion: if I want to check that the position and type > information of the washing machine is still accurate, I need to ring > the doorbell and be invited in to see for myself, but it is not > realistic that an owner would invite dozens of potentially malicious > random people into their house just for this. > > Even if the object would be visible from the outside, it is of no use > to 99.9999% of individuals if the owner does not let me do my laundry > there. If a TV is fully and clearly visible from the outside through > the window, it _may_ serve a public utility of entertainment if you > can lip read, but you need to ring the doorbell each time you want to > switch channels... > > Private parking and driveways are acceptable because it hints at which > way the entrance is - helping delivery personal and guests alike. I've > mapped some very interesting hilly terrain where this can be > especially useful, as roads were pretty dense and the road towards > where the entrance is was not trivial and a failed guess could cost > you a few more minutes of walking or driving for each house. > > Private swimming pools aren't that interesting but people seem to > enjoy tracing them. Maybe in case of emergency they could be used as a > nearby water source by the fire brigade? > > From the privacy section, am I reading correctly that you suggest that > you find it acceptable to map each tomb in a cemetery by name? > > I think a lot of considerations are missing in this article other than > those stemming from the GDPR, like military and national > considerations. You also do not mention that there exist regions where > mapping activities are forbidden by the law and punishable by prison > sentence. And anyway other than describing "what is worthless to map", > I think you are trying to basically gather "mapping ethics", and maybe > this should be better be done in Wikipedia because it does not only > concern OpenStreetMap, but any mapping provider. > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 3:15 PM Niels Elgaard Larsen <elga...@agol.dk> > wrote: > > > > Mateusz Konieczny via talk: > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Limitations_on_mapping_private_information > > > > > > Do you think that this page is a good description of community > consensus? > > > > > > The page has > > > "This page is under development (May 2020). It may not yet reflect > community consensus." > > > and I would like to check whatever it matches community consensus well > or mismatches it. > > > > > > > > I think we should avoid language such as "There is no need to split > residential > > landuse into individual plots". > > > > Of course there is a need for someone somewhere to tag just about > everything. > > For example, if you want to buy a house you would want to see where the > plot is. > > > > This is not about needs, but about privacy, and maybe data quality. > > > > > > -- > > Niels Elgaard Larsen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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