On 24/07/2020 10.18, Paul Allen wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 15:00, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
On 24/07/2020 08.19, Paul Allen wrote:
The image in the wiki for parking lanes matches
what I expect of it. As in this situation near me:
https://goo.gl/maps/WUZKmhQTDSRsgnDx7 on the right
of the road are double yellow lines, which mean "no parking
or waiting at any time" (but there are exceptions) and on
the left is a single yellow line which means "parking and
waiting permitted some of the time" (though there are
exceptions and provisions and it gets complicated). The
left is a parking lane, as I understand it. There are no
parking spaces marked.
AFAIK there is nothing exactly like that in the US. People do park on
streets (note 5th, 4th and 3rd Avenues, as previously mentioned), and
there is sometimes signage regulating this.
Sounds like the same thing, Near enough. Especially if some streets
have signs saying "no parking at any time."
Right; I didn't mean "we don't have on-street parking", I meant we don't
mark it like that.
Relatedly: I would call that "on-street parking". To me, a "parking
lane" is actually more like the NYC video I linked, i.e. a space that is
dedicated to *parking* and not intended to be used by through traffic.
This is probably a large part of the confusion, as it seems that what
OSM calls a "parking lane" is what I would call "on-street parking", and
what I call a "parking lane", OSM considers a parking lot.
BTW, this is what NYC apparently considers a "parking lane":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJv4oleZAhQ
That's a "floating parking lane," according to the video.
Yeah, I don't know what "floating" means there.
Looks to me like a parking lot adjoining a road at one side and
adjoining a cycle lane at the other. I say this because of what is
visible at the left of that "floating parking lane" - an obstacle.
Even with no vehicles parked there, through traffic would be
obstructed. Difficult to be sure, from the video, though. I'm glad
I don't have anything like that around here, otherwise I'd have to
figure out how to map it.
It's pretty typical of what I'm dealing with in Quantico, though. We
seem to have come to an agreement to map this as a "lot".
That said, I think the US definition may be "a lane which is for
parking, rather than through traffic, and which may be intermittently
present" (e.g. the above video). However, I am much *less* convinced
that it is useful to model them that way, at least in the current state
of things.
Was there through traffic in the parking lane itself in the above video?
I can state with some confidence that there isn't *intended* to be.
Again, I think we've agreed to treat that as a "lot". (Which I believe
is what I was trying to say, admittedly very badly, with the above.)
--
Matthew
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