Good evening,

In the region where I live there are 657 objects tagged with amenity=bicycle_parking, of which 457 have no bicycle_parking tag at all. I would say that classification of the bicycle_parking is undertagged in general.

Parking the bicycle by handlebar is not the norm in The Netherlands, but there are many instances of handlebar bicycle parking (I have no numbers on this though) [1] [2]. Especially at schools and places that need to be kept clean (because the bicycles do not 'clutter' when they are parked). It is also compatible with most types of bicycles, and there is no danger of bending the wheel when parked. I hope that by introducing this additional tag on the wiki more amenity=bicycle_parking can be classified correctly (and fully).

At this moment the tagging of bicycle_parking=handlebar_holder only exists in Switzerland, and one node which I created just now in The Netherlands.

I agree that a full proposal to add this tag would not add anything.

As for editor support.
- ID editor: and bicycle_parking is a free-form-taginfo-autocompleted field. Once the tag is used enough it will be autocompleted in the combobox. No action is necessary. [3] - JOSM: the list is hard-coded, and may need to be expanded. This would be a simple patch to the presets. [4] - StreetComplete: The linked issues show an interesting discussion. It is unclear if an additional way of parking a bicycle would be a problem if it is sufficiently different from the existing types in the app (the main argument in the linked issues).

Kind regards,
/Hidde Wieringa/

[1] (NL) https://bike-safe.nl/index.php/fietsparkeeroplossingen/stuurdrager

[2] (NL) https://www.falco.nl/producten/fietsparkeren/fietsenrekken/stuurdraagsysteem-falcohanger.html
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[3] https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/c5c76b3/data/presets/presets/amenity/bicycle_parking.json

[4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/trunk/resources/data/defaultpresets.xml?rev=16646#L2456


On 14-06-2020 21:16, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:



Jun 14, 2020, 20:51 by lukas.toggenbur...@fhgr.ch:

    Do we need additional steps to make this value "official"?

You can go through a https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process
but it is unlikely to add anything.

You can try asking for support in editors (JOSM presets etc), but not sure how necessary it is. Is it popular and significantly undertagged in some regions or is it rare and exotic type?

    I would like to propose it as an additional option in
    StreetComplete ( https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete )
    but don't want to do it prematurely.

It appears to be extremely rare (based on number of tags so far), so it is likely that answer will be "for rare situations the can't say option that will leave a freeform note is available"

See also https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/1202
https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/1038 that are related.

See also initial discussion in https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/pull/923

Note: I am not a maintainer of StreetComplete - but I would encourage looking
through what I linked before creating a new issue

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