On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 12:56, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 17:43, <lukas-...@web.de> wrote: >> The second goal my proposal wants to message is to deprecate tagging >> "crossing=traffic_signals" together with "highway=traffic_signals" on the >> same node. Especially if you're saying this is a full crossing mapped. It >> breaks the highway=crossing - tagging scheme we use for all other types of >> crossing (except crossing=no). Some mappers use "crossing=traffic_signals" >> together with "highway=traffic_signals" on the same node als a shortcut for >> "lane traffic signal" and "foot traffic signal" because it is rendered as >> two traffic signals in JOSM. Or for mapping traffic signals for crossing >> cyclists. But I think in every case it is better to use two different >> (nearby) nodes for that. > > Am I misunderstanding you? You propose using two nearby nodes for > https://goo.gl/maps/3Sg5ndQ2ZCMBN9uy9 You can just see the yellow > pedestrian-control box at the left. It controls the crossing (marked with > studs) > going from left to right across the picture. The same lights that tell > motorists > to stop for pedestrians also control traffic flow at the T junction ahead. > The > same set of lights is both a highway traffic signal and a crossing traffic > signal. > This sort of thing is not uncommon in the UK, with the same set of lights > being used for both purposes.
My understanding was that traffic signals=crossing on demand is meant for things like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2771622922 ( https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/2oyFQXVHvy2r-XypCZTECg ) however I might be wrong? Or https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1416834957 ( https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/DkuEFqSbOuQPGMtABsFFCA ) including cyclists? (Esri is good for satellite imagery of these) Personally I find highway=traffic_signals + crossing=traffic_signals on one node sufficient for these crossings. Currently the wiki page says "traffic_signals=crossing_on_demand makes it easy to mark all traffic lights which do only control a crossing", again I personally find highway=traffic_signals + crossing=traffic_signals sufficient for that - maybe I'm missing something. Of course any new tags can be proposed. But I would suggest adding some real-world photos of crossings that would be tagged with crossing_on_demand to the wiki page. --Jarek _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
