Although in Portugal squares are very well defined, either from their physical significance or from their name, this is surely not the case in every country. Maybe one of their main common characteristics is that they're open urban areas, a point of confluence where people can gather for social or cultural events. I think it won't be possible to find a better common denominator and that's why there should be good examples on the English wiki and on other countries' wiki.
Às 06:42 de 23/03/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu:
Am Mo., 23. März 2020 um 06:26 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>>: "Praça ou largo: Praça, praceta ou largo: espaço numa zona urbana, normalmente sem edifícios (apenas a volta desta), que constitui um espaço público aberto" This translates back to English as (approximately): "Praça, praceta or largo: space in an urban area, usually without buildings (except for around it), which constitutes a public open space" sounds reasonable (apart that there may be buildings on a square, is not untypical) I'll update this to the new definition from the English page. Which you keep reverting to your interpretation of square. It currently reads "A town or village square: a hardscaped open public space, generally of architectural significance, which is surrounded by buildings in a built-up area such as a city, town or village." While I do not object that this is describing a part of all squares, I do object that these are criteria which are suitable to exclude objects. For example "surrounded by buildings" is a typical situation, but is not a strict requirement. A public square surrounded by walls would be equally ok, for instance. A square which is not paved would be ok as well (not usual in many parts of the world, but quite common in others, where road paving is generally rare). Let me post some more examples of squares here: Example for a famous square with buildings on it (Krakov): https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.06164/19.93764 Example for a square that is not mainly hardscaped (although in a developed country), Strausberger Platz in Berlin (socialist urbanism) https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.51865/13.42866 Two adjacent squares, with significant parts not hardscaped: Platz vor dem Neuen Tor, and Robert-Koch-Platz in Berlin https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.52851/13.37865 Another example for a socialist square, mostly open / flowing space, center is a traffic junction: Platz der Vereinten Nationen: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/52.52328/13.42999 Square that is not surrounded / delimited by buildings (but by walls): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24534437 Another example for a square that is not at all delimited by buildings: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2743565 Example for a minor square without a lot of "architectural significance" (well, this may depend on your definition of significance, significant compared to what? One could also say thisi is significant, as it clearly stands out as open space from the road grid): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/125988144 I've also created an Indonesian page, which gives a couple examples of "alun-alun" in Indonesia which fit the definition: 1) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Alun-alun_Garut.jpg/400px-Alun-alun_Garut.jpg 2) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Alun_-_Alun_Bandung_Masjid_Raya_Bandung.jpg/400px-Alun_-_Alun_Bandung_Masjid_Raya_Bandung.jpg But there are many other alun-alun that are grassy urban parks, not squares: A) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zpwpVxKz0q0/UXoUmFzUAXI/AAAAAAAABpI/brIHP9_dQQY/s400/images.jpg B) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alun-alun_Tugu_-_Bunder_-_panoramio.jpg C) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Square_Trenggalek_-_Alun-Alun_Trenggalek_-_panoramio_(10).jpg From photos it is hard to judge these, because you would usually need to see the context in order to understand whether these are just parks or parks on squares. I also notice that these are all huge. Try to think of small squares as well, e.g. places like this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/41/da/8341dab9b3f5b929cc136f06b01bb3cb.jpg http://www.italymoviewalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/fontana-delle-tartarughe-roma-movie-walks.jpg Cheers Martin
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