On 27/01/2020 17:19, Dave F via Tagging wrote:


On 27/01/2020 16:41, Mike Thompson wrote:

I have never understood the use of tags like "cycleway", "bridleway", and "footway."  To me these mix two different concepts (physical form and legal
access) in a single tag.

These values do not indicate a way's form. That is achieved with secondary, adjective tags such as segregated/width/surface/smoothness etc.

Sure they do - by inference at least.

If a "cyclebridlefootpath"* was constructed "mainly for cycle traffic" than it'll tend to have a certain form.  It'll probably not have a surface of lumpy rocks.  Something constructed "mainly for horse traffic" won't have stiles (other than horse stiles) on it.  Of course, it absolutely makes sense to add secondary tags such as surface etc. as well.  It's not guaranteed that "everywhere in the world a cycleway will have this physical form" but if you know what the norm is for things constructed for cycle traffic in whatever country you're in, you've got an idea what to expect, even without extra tags.

Re access, in England, I'd also always add access tags where possible too, since unlike some other places, there's nothing like "allemansrätten" here, and it's quite possible for access to be "permissive" or "no" rather than "yes", and where access is "yes" it's useful to know why (here usually some other legal designation that confers that access).

To get back to the main question, the advice I'd give to people mapping cyclebridlefootpaths in their local country is "do whatever other people in your country do".  That might vary between "use highway=path for almost everything**" and "use duck tagging - pick what something most resembles", but if someone follows the local herd at least other people locally should understand what they mean.

Best Regards,

Andy

* one of any of what anyone might tag as highway=cycleway, highway=bridleway, highway=footway, highway=path.

** obviously highway=path with no other tags is pretty useless - there are no clues about either access or form there at all.



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