On 19/07/19 23:19, Marc Gemis wrote:
But isn't the main characteristic of a village green / village common
that is is a rather large, open area ?
Large? No. No requirement for 'large' whatever that may mean.
Open? Yes, in that people/animals can gather together but it could have trees
as people/animals can gather under those too.
I am thinking of a large grass
field in the centre of the town, but it could probably be paved as
well (or sand or ...)
OTOH The use of landcover=greenery is meant for "small" patches of
bushes / flowers/ trees/ grass that you find in and out of towns.
m.
On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:38 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think they are at least close to the village, if not within it, in the UK and
Australia.
On 19/07/19 16:04, Peter Elderson wrote:
Hm.. village_common still says village, where often these areas are no longer
in a village.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 19 jul. 2019 om 00:42 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
As Kevin Kenny says.
The key 'landuse' is big misused for land covers.
And this predominately is because of the tag landuse=grass.
While this exists OSM can expect the key 'landuse' to be used (misused) for
land covers of all descriptions.
If the key 'landuse' is only used for the human use of the land - free of any
hint of the cover then there may be some hope of resolving 'village_green'.
In Australia there is the 'village common' - land held for common use, this
might get away form the 'green' aspect of grass. The rendering colour could
also be closer to that of schools and hospitals, again away from the colour
green.
On 19/07/19 07:59, Peter Elderson wrote:
In Nederland there are many of village_green like areas, used for community events, but
without a formal status. I would support tagging these as village_green. Larger cities
tend to have several of these areas, often because villages have been incorporated but
the central area has retained its function as "village green" in the
neighourhood. Let's join the countries that already do this.
I would also gladly help retagging areas wrongly tagged as village_green. It's
used a lot but nothing we couldn't fix in a project, if we agree on a clear
convention.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op do 18 jul. 2019 om 23:31 schreef Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:07 AM marc marc <marc_marc_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The only way to have a chance to get away with it is to depreciate
this tag (at least outside uk but maybe also in uk) in favor of a tag
by meaning instead of having a multi-meaning tag
landuse=grass is horrible, since it describes a landcover rather than
a land use, but it's plausible for those things that aren't village
greens.
If you make an exception inside the UK for 'village_green', remember
that some of us former colonies have them too. Lots of New England
villages follow the general pattern of villages in Merrie Olde
England, and (at least historically) have a village hall, a school, a
church, and shops clustered about a village green or common. (All the
buildings in modern times may have been repurposed, but the village
green is likely still there.)
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