We should also remember ourselves that we want to talk objectively about topics as often as possible and avoiding debates that are driving too emotional. Sure, everyone is free to express his/her subjective view but it shouldn't enlarge to a emotional debate like in thread https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-May/045707.html and ongoing. I am talking about iD's validation rules and the discussion about it. At the end it drove to a emotional debate about how someone should behave and such debates aren't helpful in my point of view.


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Subject: Re: [Tagging] A modest proposal to increase the usefulness of the tagging list
From: Christoph Hormann
To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
CC:


On Sunday 02 June 2019, Simon Poole wrote:
>
> - not posting more than 30 times per month (the 30 comes from the WMF
> mailing lists, where it seems to work quite well)
>
> - not more than one proposal per person per month
>
> - not more than 4 new proposals per month in total

Note there have been in the past opinions that documenting a new tag
without creating a proposal is not desirable (see
the "motorcycle:scale" thread earlier this year). If you combine that
with the limitation of the number of proposals that can be made you
would essentially limit our base principle of "Any tags you like".

In other words: Any rate limitation to the proposal process would IMO
need to go with a clear agreement that the proposal process is optional
for creating a new tag.

In the past i usually preferred the wiki for bringing up and discussing
questions related to specific tags especially because it allowed for
more selective participation in discussion. But the introduction of
bot edits into the wiki to me largely burnt the whole thing. A clear
agreement that the tagging documentation part of the wiki is humans
only without using mechanical tools would therefore also help a
lot. ;-)

My own observation regarding the tagging list is that endless threads
are much more annoying than the overall number of new subjects opened.
So having as a guiding principle the rule not to post more than two or
three replies on the same subject could be useful. It would encourage
everyone to contemplate their replies more thoroughly and not engage in
back-and forth two person dialogs - for which this kind of mailing list
with a large number of subscribers is not really the ideal place.

--
Christoph Hormann
http://www.imagico.de/

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